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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Tuscany International Drilling Inc T.TID

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Post by Fullblaston Feb 04, 2014 3:59pm

Agreement

As RonJadler refered to earlier, the agreement is probably on pacer, the US courts web site.
Comment by Fullblaston Feb 04, 2014 3:53pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

What's really strange Onthecase is that many journalists who've been writing about TID over the past few days seem to have had a look at the agreement. From where ? I don't know. Anyways I ...more  
Comment by onthecaseon Feb 04, 2014 3:32pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

We're thinking alike, Fullblast. This is the first material fact that puts my hair on end. Filing a PR referencing a restructuring plan - remembering to do that part - but forgetting to publicly ...more  
Comment by Fullblaston Feb 04, 2014 3:05pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

I also noticed on Monday that the Support agreement wasn't on sedar. Though it was odd. It's not on TID's website either. As a strategy, we could forward the agreement and the info on ...more  
Comment by RHertigon Feb 04, 2014 3:00pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

 Is it possible they wanted to sell the Heli rigs and a junior creditor was blocking it. So Tuscany and CS prepackaged a chapter 11 to sell just some of the equipment. Then CS can accept that ...more  
Comment by onthecaseon Feb 04, 2014 2:22pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

dogtoobad, nice assessment, clear and concise. I too am looking for the 'leftover' amount at the end of the food chain. The flip side of this logic is that if assets exceed liabilities by so ...more  
Comment by dogtoobadon Feb 04, 2014 2:02pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

In general, the bidding process is controlled by a Court appointed independent Receiver Manager, likely the current Restructuring Officer. Be mindful that the Company has walked down this path ...more  
Comment by justsomeguytradingon Feb 04, 2014 1:51pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

Unfortunately I do not know anyone in this space.  I did however speak with Lorance Pasiechnyk last Thursday afternoon.  He is the CEO of Simmons Edeco oilfield services.  Lorance ...more  
Comment by onthecaseon Feb 04, 2014 1:40pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

See, personally I'd like to know exactly what that process entails: specifically, who does the notification for this sort of bidding, and whom exactly are they required to notify? I just can't ...more  
Comment by Fullblaston Feb 04, 2014 1:23pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

Sorry, my last post was to Onthecase
Comment by Fullblaston Feb 04, 2014 1:22pm

RE:RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

Rhertig, I would imagine that the news of TID's assets going for bidding is already out to all potential bidders.. news travel fast in this world
Comment by onthecaseon Feb 04, 2014 1:03pm

RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

RHertig, fantastic link you included earlier, very insightful. And yes, Tuscany opted for Chapter 11 in US and Canada, but none of the South American units (the operations units) were included in the ...more  
Comment by khaledbon Feb 04, 2014 12:48pm

RE:RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

IMO .. TID own all others subsidiaries shares..... They will be considered like assets. but you are right that the PR is little bit confusing Other than Tuscany USA, none of the Company's other ...more  
Comment by RHertigon Feb 04, 2014 11:49am

RE:Credit bidding and common shareholders

 The creditor bids X amount of debt owed to them on an item instead of cash. This puts a floor on what the item sells for. Otherwise other companies will come in and try to steal everything ...more  
Comment by pennywyse2on Feb 04, 2014 11:38am

RE:RE:RE:Thanks Pennywise. Yes im thinking they will sell privatly

I don't think the Bankruptcy judge has to take any account of the interests of the shareholders. The debtor is Bankrupt, it has failed to meet its obligations and thus the creditors have the right ...more  
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