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on Feb 03, 2014 2:45pm
RE:RE:RE:The DIP facility and the Implications
This is because they had 16 milli cash from last quarter + money received from M&P, and also because the decembre debt payment has been delayed to January 24th ..they spent all the cash and
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RE:RE:Insolvent
Didn't you read the definition, insolvency is not being able to pay your bills on time.
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:35pm
RE:RE:The DIP facility and the Implications
I think we all here have to point out that the long term debt has not risen since Maurel deal. It was $205 million and it has dropped down to $202 million as of today. Today's NR talk about $237
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:29pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:Assets value?
Does anybody now if we are going to get Q4 2013 financials released under bankruptcy protection an a conference call with investors? Anyone.
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khaledb
on Feb 03, 2014 2:26pm
RE:RE:RE:Assets value?
Nine months ended September 30 - 2013 Total assets 480,766 https://www.marketwired.com/press-release/tuscany
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:19pm
RE:Insolvent
But Pennywyse, TID's assets cover its debt totally, that is why it not insolvent. It has difficulty paying its bill on time, that is why it has a liquidity problem.
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khaledb
on Feb 03, 2014 2:18pm
RE:RE:Assets value?
I don't know.... In Q1 2013 the total assets value was around 600 mill ...i don't think the M&P deal took 300 milli from that total.... Any ideas? ... In chapter 11 the estimation of 100
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:15pm
Insolvent
People keep making the incorrect statement that TID is not insolvent it just has a "liquidity problem" Definition of Insolvency as per Wests Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:15pm
RE:RE:Assets value?
That's my understanding Sailpgd. Assets are well above debt, market is picking up in South America, heli-rigs are being sold. That is why I am optimistic about TID emerging sucessfully from all
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:07pm
RE:Assets value?
Well, TID's bankruptcy filing stated that their assets and debt combined are $500 million. Since we know that their total debt is $202 million, can we not assume that their assets are worth $298
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:05pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Chapter 11 vs. 7
onthe case, Good job with your take on things
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:04pm
Assets value?
Do you know what is the TID's assets value ? is it 300 millions or more ?
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on Feb 03, 2014 2:03pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Chapter 11 vs. 7
Well said onthecase. GLTA.
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on Feb 03, 2014 1:54pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:Chapter 11 vs. 7
Wonderfully well put, RonJadler. You've seized upon some key points: Chapter 11 rather than 7, which means the lenders see an upside to cleaning TID's operational and financing house. The
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on Feb 03, 2014 1:31pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:Chapter 11 vs. 7
In no way that I meant that there's fraud in TID, just that the result may be the same as far as shareholders are concerned. I hope that you are right and we will end up OK with this one. Jack
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