RE: gold up 34 an oz and we're down. Most of my gold stocks are explorers and as you say they have gone nowhere even with the big push up in the gold price. CGA however is a producer and I figure they set up a first class operation. I have been in since the early days before and during construction and continue to hold these days but have to say it is one of my biggest disappointments. It has gone virtually nowhere. Crossed the $3 line a couple of times but if it was located anywhere in North or even South America it would have been at least pushing the $8 - $10 range. Frustrating!