Lou Who's trying to fool who? Since the beginning of this argument I have maintained what was TOLD to me, not what I thought. You on the other hand have argued about what you " think" against the obvious responses I got from sources closer to the matter. You and greasefacemonkey are trying to lead the board more on your own sentiment, I want to make sure people are making decisions on facts. Those facts are good and bad alike. I'm tired of trying to prove what was said to me, it is there for everyone to see. Ultimately if the board wants to follow the blind leading the blind, that's fine as well. I know I wish someone had posted real hard facts with other stocks I've owned in the past, which is why I'm posting here. Difference between you and me is that I'm content to just tell it like it is, not the way I wish it was. In a utopian world, KWG would be worth $1 and I'd be floating on a boat somewhere far away from an I telnet connection.