RE: RE: you have got to be kidding me!!! I think we can forget about the coal. Too high a sodium and sulfur content and they would not have written it off if there was any hope for it in the foreseeable future. The liquids project had way too high a cap ex and way too low an IRR. That said, the Venture has collapsed since the fall, their neighbor WTR has been cut in half along with most everything else, they write off the coal and the stock is up since the fall? Humm.