There's no forces just the worse managment in the business Poor, poor Tony. Not only the only patsy of the nitwit Doube but foolish enough to think evil forces are manipulating a penny stock. Here's news for you Tony that you just can't accept; you and the nitwit are apparently the only two humans who believe in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and Hopley and Davis are not the two worse people running a resource company in the world today. You could never grasp why the largest single shareholder, who had firsthand experience with the Laurel and Hardy of the resource management world, would plead for their departure or a sale of the company when the stock was twice the current price. He knew their ineptness would lead to where we are today if left uncheck. But you instead think speaking to Doube and TOP management made you smarter than the rest when in fact, you're among the biggest dummies who have not just stuck it out with SGC, but been buying all the way down. Like Cash said, how's that working out for you? So rather than blame manipulation or forces that don't exist, wake up and smell the stink Hopley and Davis have left all of us in. Too bad SGC is not a professional sports team because both would have been fired long ago. There's not one shareholder who can show a profit since the stock hit .13 today. How's that for TOP management.