RE:RE:RE:Stand up and be countedOkey. I don't think we are phonies however we have been at this for such a long time its starting to become inconsequential what we think. Here is what I think. And I love to hear otherwise. There is so many factors influencing this price. Some of them are logical - such as the price of copper at 2.76US, (its low however at some point imperial was saying it would make money at 2.50US), the debt at around 800 mil...huge...the lack of profit from imperial, and constant - CONSTANT - bad news refrence mining operations... If its not broken parts on equipment, its dragging, if its not equipment , its a strike, if its not strike it the fires in BC, if its not fires its the weather.....simply put ... imperial got shaty luck... Now some of the other factors here are very highly illogical why the price is low.... the main debt holders service ratios - which are set up to eat anything imperial makes, add to it that Murray owns the debt primarily, he also owns the bulk of shares, you start seeing that the enterprise has been set up to make money primarily for him............ Finally, the main project Red Chris...has been underwhelming - the ratios are low for concentrate.... There are so many fudged up factors here.... So what the BLUF; I think one of the employees said it best - we are hoping to mine in the next 3 years....let that sink in - MINE in the NEXT 3 YEARS.... Am I buying...hell no! I am 400% in the hole on 40K. I am hoping the DIAMOND is right an this recovers by end of the year to 3$....will it go to .60 - highly likely as the debt consolidation is coming up...and they will get squeezed...however this is ME golden cow....he gets his money from interest ...and the fund he set up.... there is always hope... Bravo