Transparency Kha, you make a valid point, very valid. I have a similar frustration but from a different viewpoint. I can get past the pricing stuff. I think the worst of it is on the past and I do think V will rise, even if not as much as Terry predicts it will still soften the blow. Next year Glencore is out or the deal is dramatically different. I believe they did that best they could given where they were when they signed. Totally different situation and we need to remember that. BUT !!!! I keep coming back to the fact that we and that analysts for that matter were intentionality misled. We were told a comprehensive capital return plan was coming.....we were told that recently....AFTER they knew it wasnt there to give back. We know it surprised everyone, even Cooperman because he wouldnt have talked up the share buyback on CNBC if it was never going to be. It didnt have to be like this if expectations had been set, now we have grumpy analyst reworking multiples (a few still pending) Ultimately I do believe it will be ok, but it will cost holders a year. I dont think EC should recover. I hope the BOD, especially after the stunt he pulled calling them out, makes the decision to make a change there.