Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

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[anthony3]

flamingogold wrote: 145, BBD was not in a bargaining position. Just like CDPQ could write a deal in their favour, Airbus had the upper hand to form the joint venture to their extreme advanatage. The knife was on BBD's throat and CDPQ and Airbus were the sharks writing up the contract.

bbdbinvestor145 wrote: Easy there Joe.

I say SUE Boeing first. And then that will scare Airbus to perform with the CSeries.

I can't believe how Bombardier gives away HALF of the CSeries without a contract in place with PERFORMANCE GOALS ATTACHED TO THE JV for Airbus, to perfom upon??? How can one give someone something for free and the other doesn't do what they are supposed to do. SELL PLANES.

That same argument as mine was in an recent posted article here by Naissance and others from the Wings Over Quebec. It said that in order for the CS500 to be built. Airbus has to sell the CS300/100 to a huge BACKLOG so they could start the CS500 assembly. Meaning Development of it etc.

That's why you put performances in a contract  when you JV with people. If they don't perform you have a recource. Maybe you could say. Airbus if you don't Sell enough planes in 2 years you lose 10% of your free 50% share. That's what CDPQ did to BBD when they set up their loan. If you don't meet these criteria then you will lose 2.5% of BT. So if BBD doesn't perform the requirments put in the Loan agreement? Then CDPQ gets more of BT. 32.5% to be exact by 2020.

Why not do the same with Airbus? It's only Normal. You gave them the 50% for free. Get something back if they don't perform.

As for sueing Bellemare. Easy. He saved this company. Maybe he saw how stupid PIERRE is. Then thought. I better get some money out off the table, for myself/family before this IDIOT screws me up too!!!!

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joeman wrote: Sue everybody, sue Boeing and sue Airbus and sue Pratt & Whitney (their gaffes which blew up several GTF engines cost BBD at least two years of delays , about 90 aircraft behind schedule, plus the delays and ongoing bugs). Airbus had the right idea with going with two engine suppliers. Bellemare was loyal to P&W actually should sue Bellemare too for his RATA deals and for locking the CS into Pratt when he knew they were going to be far behind schedule, could have ran with two engine suppliers. Conflict of interest lawsuits.

bbdbinvestor145 wrote: Hey Sham.

BTW. The shamhorish character that you chose for handle is amazing.

The CDPQ did it to the Bomber. And CDPQ is supposedly our friend. But the Bomber has learned that you don't make these kind of mistakes any more. When you're runing a company. You have to be careful about spending Billions to go against a duopoly. That's why Bellemare has a hard time turning this mess around. It isn't easy. Even you are the best CEO. These mistakes can only be done by IDIOTS. The biggest one is Pierre Beaudoin "The IDIOT HEIR" thank God he let Bellemare correct his mistakes.

The dream was good. But it became a NIGHTMARE.

The CDPQ example of taking advantage of someone who is down is a perfect example for the Bomber to learn by their MISTAKE.

That's why I say SUE BOEING now that everyone is suing them them for WRONGFUL Trade Complaint as the Bomber was found innocent by the US International Trade Commision. It's easy to prove, and the USTrade Commision evidence is the only evidence they need.

And if they win there. Then they can put the screws on Airbus to perform, or Bombardier will sue them for COLABORATING with Boeing to steal the CSeries. The Airbus deal was another bad deal they were forced to do. But the Bomber has servived both deals. The CDPQ and the Airbus deal.

It looks good.Doesn't it???


Cheers
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Shamhorish wrote: the terms of CDPQ is RIP OFF, i do not understand how bbd accepted those terms at those very high rates and lousy conditions
and that is a quebec institution, even some quebec institutions, gov. etc are working to drag down bbd, 
gald that Sabia is out, GOD is watching

 

 

 

If bbd didnt partner with Airbus they would be on the hook for 300% tarrifs on the now A220 because of boeing thus causing them to not have a chance in the US market.