It's like arguing with a wall
"this company sucks" "management sucks"
But when you tell them to sell, they say, "no, I'm waiting for it to go up 5000% back to where I bought it, then I will sell."
Ok, so this must be a great investment if it's going to go up 5000%
"no, it's a terrible investment... But after it goes up 5000%, then I will sell this terrible investment."
Really? Sheesh...