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Western Forest Products Inc T.WEF

Alternate Symbol(s):  WFSTF

Western Forest Products Inc. is a Canada-based integrated forest products company building a margin-focused log and lumber business to compete in global softwood markets. The Company’s primary business is the sale of lumber and logs, which includes timber harvesting, sawmilling logs into specialty lumber, value-added lumber and glulam remanufacturing, and wholesaling purchased lumber. It has a lumber capacity of approximately 885 million board feet from six sawmills, as well as operates four remanufacturing facilities and two glulam manufacturing facilities. The Company's product categories include outdoor living, exterior appearance, LIFESTYLE CEDAR, interior living, structural, industrial and WFP engineered products. Its outdoor living products include decking, timbers and fencing products. Its LIFESTYLE CEDAR products include LIFESTYLE CEDAR Decking and LIFESTYLE CEDAR Fencing. Its WFP Engineered Products include curved and arched glulams, straight glulams, and fabricated trusses.


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Comment by dosperroson Aug 26, 2020 11:58am
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Post# 31455735

RE:Looking pretty safe here

RE:Looking pretty safe hereNow this is a first for me - I have now read something in an annon internet chat forum and thought...  'Bang on, this guys got a clear insight I missed, and I am under-exposed to RFP options, and let's go throw another $10k into 'em."  $10k deployed on another 2800 call options for RFP.  I've already got maybe 10,000 of em.

Great post.  WEF has closer to a billion feet, so a more optimistic case yet.

That said I'm shocked at the fact (1) RFP is both at a 66% discount to 2018.  WEF is close, at a 57% discount to their 2018 high.  I am confident that a reversion to the mean is likely, attainable, and conservative given my buddies trading lumber are over US $1200 for commodity tallies.  Futures is not there yet lol.  In any event I can confidently say we'll blow 2018 out of the water, just not sure by how much.  

So to your point I just bought RFP calls, with the new $10k being for Apirl 2021.  In the money at a $3.00 strike, I paid $3.60.  So my "breakeven" for RFP is $6.60 in April 2020.  That's following the Q4-2020 news, on top of Q3-2020 both of which will be historic.  I can say that fairly for Q3-2020 as it's in the bag.  Q4-2020 will also be at least a $700/mfbm quarter.  

So RFP wins the day for me on shockingly, irresponsibly mispriced call options and greater discount. 

There is a leverage item you mentioned too.  What if valuation metrics stay low?  To some degree I dont care as my perspective is that the firms carrying debt will convert that to market cap as debt is wiped out,  I have more faith in this process than I do with the less leveraged firms who may do dumb stuff like bad M&A.  I killed it with Tembec using this type of "path forward from too much debt" visioning.

So WEF has some debt, $200M or so, and that'll be a win when paid back.  But RFP, over the next two quarters, assuming super conservative attained pricing of $750/mfbm lumber (keep in mind one quarter is in the bag at north of this and the one we're selling into now is like $950+), RFP will take it's 2.4 billion feet, 1/2 of that for the Q3 and Q4 numbers, so 1,200,000 MFBM at a margin of $500, and that's $600 million in lumber earnings (USD).  It's literally enough to wipe out their CAD $700M debt, and there's only 80M shares, so that's enough to add $8.75 per share before my calls expire in April 2021.

So, that's my viewpoint on why I think the Kamikaze market marker for RFP (no options for WEF) is our new best buddy after J Powell and the zero rates for 5 years.  

Excellent and thought provoking post though, thank you for the wider perspective.  Usually it's just lumber guys like me haggling over which mill has the best board edger.  Good luck.

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