RE:$10 is comingrockies not even I will make that claim :-) to me it does all come down to the bottom line and proper calcuations factoring revenue gross and net profits divided per share. Look I had projected based on calculations not once did I say a share should be worth something based on other than calculations to be warranting more than a $2.00-$2.50 share value (past) $3 current based on $1/share max for the company being partnered to three huge companies unlike the past. My stating shares should trade x pre revenue is based on potential and being tied to huge partners where it is very likely there will be revenue flow through how much has yet to be seen. Now let me show you what I will say.
Assuming a $1.00 share price right now based on .33 per major partner based on revenue potential that will extend over the years and the reason I am giving the values. If there isn't such good potential/weak partner I would not factor these dollar values. In any case, let's say this is a buck with just being partnered to these companies.
Now assuming this makes 5 million revenue and we have 150 million outstanding shares--leaving gross profit aside (which definitely needs to be factored in) but let's go straight calculation that is 1/30 less than .04 a share call it 3.5 I would value this at $1.035.
Now where we factor in gains and losses you would need to take the gross profits and all expenses coming out of it subtracting that from the previous quarterly earnings if a gain you add by the weighted calculation if negative you subtract.
If the company is EBITDA positive I would multiple the resultant by 2-4 times so let's say that this is at $1.04 and you have an EBITDA positive resultant I would put a low end fair at $2.08 to the highest of $4.16 and then you repeat the cycle of seeing whether there are gains or losses and if there is EBITDA positive or not in which you carry on by quarter to quarter comparisons and year to year.
Even I will not say what you I am sure are sarcastically saying. And if you recall and you do me justice I have always qualified and given projected scenarios to get my share values not one did I state without qualifying them. Now if these things did not come to pass of course I would be wrong calling for them.
And if you do recall I did say the company I would give potential value up to $2.00 I would give the company a value of $2.50 or more depending on contracts--had I followed my own advice and seeing the company had nothing I should have sold at the top of $3.76 and I shouldn't have said $2 is a good buy despite holding to the fact that it is a fair price for it having excellent potential but after the collapse and a few years passed by as with not selling at $3.76 where I should have sold I should have said at $2.00 that I still believe this may be a good price for the potential but it is looking less attractive it may be worth to start selling off. I didn't.
That said it is all a matter of persepctive still because if people still strongly believed that there would be contracts they would not sell but the shorters moved in and were shorting mercilessly. Instead of getting upset and talking manipulation the better thing would have to have a more balanced persepctive and say despite the manipulation and shorting this still has the potential to do well but there has been long market risk and no product whether the shorting is justified or not it may be worth while to sell some shares to protect against losses to be able to buy back.
I will admit that I was buying cool aid and was not talking as neutrally as I should have a mistake i will not make moving forward. When I say I know the game after seeing everything how they go with numerous stocks I know where things go and quick and dirty trends but no matter what I also know manipulation or not stick to my bottom triggers sell hold if above wait for a double if not coming decide to sell for freed up monies either to hold to see where things go down or buy elsewhere. So I will say I haven't been as balanced as I should have been.
And among the reasons that I don't want to say very much, project very much although I have been and will do until December 26th and everything goes in silence. Why I have put the valuation as I have is simply because of all the verticals and everything that can happen again all potential but so that you are clear and we make no mistakes about it I am very fussy over the calculations and when i had projected other companies out I used what i thought were viable projections many of which came and many which didn't so i am only as good as companies being successful at drawing revenue and then drawing the type of revenue i strongly believe they are capable of if they are what i have said comes to pass if not it doesn't it is really that simple.
And in the case of pyr I have given my reasons numerous times why I have and continue to call it a beast capable of $70 dollars a share over time--I already ran calculations on 1 tech and both a 10 and 10 percent licensing royalty. The company has gross profits as high as 68% as to what they have claimed. So it is most likely averaging a 30-40 gross I would suspect I am just guestimating.
In any case, I would never agree with what you have just said even if you think I over inflate prices--no I don't based on projected numbers but yes if companies fail to get to them, however, never with any intentions of misleading but just getting caught up in speculating and talking about things passionately but that said I should as I said above stated things a little more balanced I didn't although I did say eventually you may be best to take profit and manage your shares. well the past is the past I have said what I said about $5-$10 for the reasons I have given here and through my ongoing posts I don't believe this will reach beyond $10 no matter how much I would say I wouldn't want to put limits--for things to go there it will need to be hyped because I am not expecting massive revenue truth be told but I am expecting things to be growing and gaining traction and have tons of long term potential to keep a solid and stable growing share value and again the reason i have given the $1.00-$3.00 share value to start--like I said and what Ir told me they don't want to rock the boat so as long as they are following their partners there is no reason that they will not have a long lasting partnership because I know that the workers in the company are quite tenacious hard working and will look to be among the most cutting edge at what it does so I am not too concerned about any of this but this is saying what i do at this point and things move organically forward and something we just need to keep assessing as we go along. Never hurts to take profits when you see them!
Anyways, I have shared jabs with you, Snake, Damn etc. there is never anything personal here and if you feel i have wronged you and others not much I can do after doing my best to make the amends that I have and trying to explain how I operate and assess things. If people accept it and we move on respectfully fine and even if we spar nothing personal just doing what we do. That said like I said I will not have empathy for people who will later on whine for making a decision that they accept it just as the rest of us need to with what we have. If we whine go ahead tunabout is fair play remind us. When I talk manipulations and shorting and blunt hard words it is frustrations more so again feeling those who have worked hard rightly deserve better should get better trust me it has nothing more than that. I am fully confident and comfortable about my price projections because I dont' think they are unreasonable at all for what we hold the only thing is that the company needs to continue to keep catching up and it is not if but when.
Time will tell the price point this year but the shares are damn cheap and people will be buying with the most likely continuing up trend up to a buck with usual dips. I say a buck for a reason--and that is I have conceded despite strongly believing revenue should come in the coming quarter i had given reasons it may not--at that point fair enough put the breaks on--but you see revenue well you are looking upwards of multiple dollars. This doesn't move to a buck that is fine too it will not do less than .50 but that is low. Either way the inevitable is multiple dollars this year as there is no reason the company should not be disclosing some sort of revenue this quarter or years end the fourth quarter this year will be reported at some point next year most likely.
Regardless, my time to sail into the sunset comes soon enough.