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Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks (including Canada’s Electric Highway, a coast-to-coast network of fast-charging electric vehicle (EV) stations). The Company is developing petroleum resources while advancing the transition to a lower-emissions future through investments in lower-emissions intensity power, renewable feedstock fuels and projects targeting emissions intensity. The Company also conducts energy trading activities focused primarily on the marketing and trading of crude oil, natural gas, byproducts, refined products and power. It also wholly owns the Fort Hills Project, which is located in Alberta's Athabasca region.


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Comment by mrbbon Jan 07, 2023 10:21pm
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RE:RE:RE:Brilliant economy lesson

RE:RE:RE:Brilliant economy lesson

no doubt cathie is trained in economic and finance but she ain't train in science or engineering which deal with mass and energy.

i respect her call on tsla (the longer the suppression, the bigger the spike of share price) on national media but she lost me when she start bashing oil and ICE. Used ICE cars were in high demand during the covid lockdown caused by chip shortage. Now going forward, many who got their overpaid shiney new or used truck/cars at high interest rate are walking away from their payment (auto subprime). There will be lots of re-possessed ICE automobilies to be dump into the market soon.  I think the transition to EV would take a longer time period than what the disruptive analysts and S-curve specialist believe. Like is said, they aren't engineers.  

On the economy, i have said it before, 'They need to wreck it in order to reset it (build back better)", Nothing happen by accident. Jerome powell rate hike mania is no accident or a mistake. IMO, the rate hike is to protect the king dollar as BRICS is trying to topple it. Rate hikes also to counter the massive inflationary action by the US government. If we are in a inflation, expect more of it because biden approved $380B Inflation Reduction Act, and then a $1.7 T spending bill.  This is a $2T in spending to inflate the economy. 

i'll stop here

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Hightowntrader wrote:
MigraineCall wrote: Well Obscure1, with all due respect, I can say I'm not a fan.

With all that doom and gloom she speaks of, it makes me wonder why she went long, and missed one of the best short trades of the year as TSLA and other EVs drop to more realistic valuations. I regret holding only a small short in TSLA, and I covered in the final days of Dec. Like the sky high marijuana stocks, once the hype and promise faded, prices move down to reflect the real value as a going concern today.

She has it totally wrong on energy, thinking what happens in a small part of the US, or what she sees at a conference or through the window of her Uber while on some foreign trip is what is going on in the rest of the world.

Energy companies earnings continue to be fantastic, even at $70 WTI, which is why their shares have not fallen with oil prices.  They are not increasing supply, in fact capital investment is lower than what is required to stay at the same level. She ignores the effect to reduce oil prices made by the 200mm bbl SPR injection into the commercial markets, the Russian crude that never made it off the market, and the low demand by the China lockdown. With OPEC only under a 1m bpd real cut, inventories continue to drop now even with all these short term hits to price and demand, which are all about to reverse.

Her forecast of 70mm bpd global consumption by 2030 is insane, a 30% drop in 7 years? Come on... Global consumption is increasing, not decreasing, while supply is constrained and approaching its limits.

Still I think we will see flat prices for a while in Q1, but fasten your seatbelts after that going into the spring.

I have been expecting general market carnage, but other than the collapse in EVs and tech, it seems the market is ignoring it, and still won't drop. Continued employment increases have proven to be strong and resilient in the real labour markets, the jobs that you hear "Would you like fries with that?"

Market is stuck in a sideways range now, SP500 floor at 3800 then up to 4100. I'm trading long and short on the edges of this channel.

Fortunately, my life experiences of being exposed to many things and bizzare people including some of my family, has given me the ability to spot and steer clear of those preaching fanatacism in religeous, political, and now recently investment beliefs. 

Her focus on including all kinds of potentially disruptive investments into the ARKK fund without regard for profitability and sometimes reality, remind me of the same unwaivering blind faith of a Q conspiracy dude at a MAGA Trump rally, or those being posessed attending a country Baptist church service in Texas. The theme is unique enough that It will convert a few into believers, but until it hits them in the pocketbook, it is hard to for them to break free of the cult.

For me, I'm not drinking the ARKK Kool Aid. I believe in oil. It is the compact easy to transport concentrated energy density fuel we humans will be needing for decades to come in ever increasing amounts in addition to other sources of energy as well.

Obscure1 wrote: Cathie Wood has her fans and detractors, but there is no denying her skills in economic analysis

There are some important messages in her latest recap of the economy such as the money supply is now negative for the first time in her 45 year career.  In addition, "orders" were down 10% which is a steeper drop than when covid hit....yikes!  Cathie also talks about how earnings are now falling at 2.5% to 3.0% (due in part to shorter work weeks).  Cathie also talks about how she believes how the economy has been in a recession since Q1. There is just too much info for me to keep writing.

The following video is 53 minutes long which is a grunt for me.  However, by the 18 minute mark (which is where I'm at now as I'm taking a break), the amount of gold is well worth the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOl3U5h_78Q

Be prepared for a dose of "I told you so" from Experienced after he has worked his way through the video. 

My take on the content of the video is that a recovery is probably coming sooner than later once we take a little trip off a cliff first.





I don't drink her Kool-aid either...Last year it was fun to go to her website and look at the ticker showing 50% + losses for 2022.. I'm gonna go take a peak at this years numbers now...lol.
  • Cathie Wood has admitted short-term defeat in her 2020 prediction that oil prices would crash to $12 per barrel.
  • WTI Crude Oil prices soared to $120 per barrel on Monday amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
  • "I got the supply shock wrong. That said, the accelerated shift toward electric transportation will destroy oil consumption at the margin," Wood said.

 

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