RE:RE:for the 15%"climate change , it has happened over a hundred times before , but let's ignore that fact" Yes, climate change due to the earths wobble on its axis, in the past has taken place. But but normal change happened over tens of thousands of years, therefore normal change has no measurable effect on today's clmate. Whereas today's climate has changed in a handful of decades, and scientist who told you of past normal changes, are telling you today's unprecedented fast change in decades vs thens of thousands of years,is because of man burning fossil fuels.