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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Andrew Peller Ltd T.ADW.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.ADW.B | ADWPF

Andrew Peller Limited is a producer and marketer of wines and craft beverage alcohol products in Canada. With wineries in British Columbia, Ontario and Nova Scotia, the Company markets wines produced from grapes grown in Ontario’s Niagara Peninsula, British Columbia's Okanagan and Similkameen Valleys, and from vineyards around the world. Its premium and ultra-premium Vintners' Quality Alliance... see more

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Andrew Peller Ltd > Interest rates are a big deal for Peller. Q2
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Post by TheCount11 on Nov 10, 2022 9:35am

Interest rates are a big deal for Peller. Q2

Shareholders are the residual claim on operating profits.  This quarter saw ALL operating profits go to debt holders. 
Decent revenue increase over last year. 
I think Peller is a Debt vs Dividend story for next few years.  If Bank of Canada raises in Dec and holds next year it won't be great for Peller equity holders all else being equal.

I can see Gross and Operating profit margins increasing with price increases.  What are your thoughts?

  Sep 30 '22   Sep 30 '21      
Sales 101,816   99,224   199515 191621
COGS 62,336 61.2% 56,816 57.3% 121972 111952
Dep_prod 2,472 2.4% 2,411 2.4% 4791 4516
Gross_profit 37,008 36.3% 39,997 40.3% 72752 75153
SGA 27,822 27.3% 26,587 26.8% 53914 51935
Dep 3,209 3.2% 2,862 2.9% 6431 5871
Op_profit 5,977 5.9% 10,548 10.6%    
Interest 6,016 5.9% 2,478 2.5% 8629 4751
Comment by johnathamilton on Nov 10, 2022 10:13am
Peller's SG&A continues to be out of line. 
Comment by TheCount11 on Nov 10, 2022 10:47am
Whats your thoughts on Debt funded Dividends next year?  ie increase amount of long term debt to pay dividends
Comment by johnathamilton on Nov 10, 2022 11:17am
I think there will be a dividend cut next year. This company has demonstrated an unwillingness to bring its bloated SG&A into line and will instead pass on the cost to the shareholders. Note that there was extensive insider selling in October prior to the release of the poor earnings report. I cannot for the life of me understand why this is allowed in Canada. There should be no insider ...more  
Comment by Stonksonlyup90 on Nov 10, 2022 11:26am
"Insider selling" was related to the winding up of a Peller Family Members Estate. However, I do agree with your comments on SG&A.. there has to be more levers to pull!
Comment by johnathamilton on Nov 10, 2022 12:24pm
Thanks for the feedback. I don't have a problem with insider selling. They do have a right to cash out and especially with regards to the passing of their brother and winding up his estate - I get it. But again - the timing looks very bad. 
Comment by TheCount11 on Nov 10, 2022 12:05pm
great points.  
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