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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Andrew Peller Ltd T.ADW.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  ADWPF | T.ADW.B

Andrew Peller Limited is a producer and marketer of wines and craft beverage alcohol products in Canada. With wineries in British Columbia, Ontario and Nova Scotia, the Company markets wines produced from grapes grown in Ontario’s Niagara Peninsula, British Columbia's Okanagan and Similkameen Valleys, and from vineyards around the world. Its premium and ultra-premium Vintners' Quality Alliance... see more

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Andrew Peller Ltd > Price action
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Post by TheCount11 on Jun 24, 2023 7:54am

Price action

Back in spring of 2017 there were nothing but blue skies ahead for Peller with years of dividend increases, a low payout ratio and optimistics investors.  By the time 2018 came around ADW.A went over $18.  Interest rates and inflation were low.  Unfortunately Covid changed that.  Investors became less optimistic and less optimistic.  The stock price chopped its way down to $4. 

Peller has limited liquidity, has cut back on CapEx and increased borrowing.  A DCF generated by any number of online sites show a negative value.  The Stock Price is better than the business likely because of the dividend and that worries me.

The stock price will continue to chop lower as investors are willing to sell at lower prices.  With short duration US Tbills above 5% its hard to fault investors willing to sit on the sidelines and buy the breakout which may only be in a few years.  This usually results in a better risk adjusted return.  An investor that sold some of their position last spring at $7 and parked their money in T-Bills is doing significantly better.  Peller is in a negative feedback loop.  A decade ago when rates were low investors would step in, buy the dip and get paid for it when the stock price went up.  Generally companies now getting bid up have Scale with low CapEx.

As the stock price continues to decrease management should focus on buybacks if company returns to profitability.  The dividend should have been cut last year as the stock is not going to find a floor until its cut and profits are directed towards buybacks.  No one wants to catch a falling knife.   Hate to be so gloomy but I own stock and can't fight a falling stock price with no end in sight.
Comment by PrivilegedP5000 on Jun 24, 2023 9:37am
Investors typically look at the share price and extrapolate from there; I on the other hand see companies trading at multi year lows as potential opportunities. And with Peller the opportunities are huge- plenty of real estate to backstop any continued market declines - however MS of brands is increasing and distribution costs are slowly coming down The real estate in B.C. could have significant ...more  
Comment by PrivilegedP5000 on Jun 24, 2023 9:59am
Only thing that has changed since 2017 is sentiment- it has gone from wildly optimistic to wildly pessimistic- has anything really fundamentally changed? Is wine consumption and wine tourism in terminal decline? I did not get that sense the last time I was in Niagara on the Lake - the Chinese tourists will come back eventually or be replaced by American or Indian or whomever. Now is not the time ...more  
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