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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Artis Real Estate Investment Pref Shs Series E T.AX.PR.E

Alternate Symbol(s):  ARESF | T.AX.UN | T.AX.PR.I

Artis Real Estate Investment Trust is an unincorporated closed-end REIT based in Canada. Artis REIT's portfolio comprises properties located in Central and Western Canada and select markets throughout the United States, including regions such as Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Arizona, Minnesota, Colorado, New York, and Wisconsin. The properties are divided into... see more

TSX:AX.PR.E - Post Discussion

Post by Frankie10 on Mar 13, 2024 10:28pm

Curious

Has anyone ran the numbers on the impact on NAV, AFFO, and FFO if hypothetically the NCIB fills at max for 14 weeks at an average price of $6?
Comment by babybunny on Mar 13, 2024 10:54pm
If Artis retires 5% of outstanding units at half of NAV, or around $7, NAV per unit rises by 2.5%.  So it would rise by 35c, from $13.96 to $14.31.  I think $6 per unit is a pipe dream, but if Artis could pull it off, NAV would rise by 40c per unit, to $14.36.  Of course this assumes nothing else good happens, such as retirement of preferred shares, gain on bargain purchase, or ...more  
Comment by Torontojay on Mar 14, 2024 9:05am
  If Artis retires 5% of outstanding units at half of NAV, or around $7, NAV per unit rises by approximately 2.5%.  So it would rise by 35c, from $13.96 to $14.31.  I think $6 per unit is a pipe dream, but if Artis could pull it off, NAV would rise by 40c per unit, to $14.36.  Of course this assumes nothing else good happens, such as retirement of preferred shares, gain ...more  
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 14, 2024 11:57am
Love this. Thank you so much for posting this. Safe to assume same % increases for AFFO and FFO per unit? The math gets even more interesting when you do 20% of the outstanding at a 57% disocunt to NAV (current discount) - my base case. great post!
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 14, 2024 12:16pm
Correction - I meant 20% of os at 46% to 43% discount.  Following ncib, assuming price remains under $7. As one would assume, the math would also compound. Cheers.   
Comment by Torontojay on Mar 14, 2024 4:26pm
Let's use a concrete example to help try to make sense of the current situation.  Nav = $100m, total units = 10m  Nav/share = $10  The company retires 2 million units or 20% of the shares outstanding at $4.3/share or a 57% discount to Nav/share  New Nav = $100m - 2m*$4.3 = $91.4m  Total units = 8m  Nav/share =~ $91.4m/8m =~ $11.425 which is a 14 ...more  
Comment by babybunny on Mar 14, 2024 6:41pm
The math really does get delectable when we get into the 20% range, and are able to keep the unit price suppressed throughout the entire buyback period.  Of course it is easy for the mathematician to make such an assumption, but much harder to effect in real life:  there are only so many weak hands  willing to sell at $6.   In your example, my shortcut would indicate 57 ...more  
Comment by Torontojay on Mar 15, 2024 6:37am
I will generalize this for different cases.  Let x be the percentage of units purchased.  Let y be the percentage discount to NAV ΔNAV = x*y/(100% - x)  In the example I gave we have,  Δ NAV = 57%*20% / 80% = 0.1425  To determine the percentage change to NAV we multiple 0.1425 by 100 to give us 14.25%  Ex 2: Nav = $100m , total units = 10m ...more  
Comment by babybunny on Mar 15, 2024 9:47am
Well presented.  This is definitely the formula to use for large SIBs where the bought-back percentage x is significant. In the typical case where x=1%, it is not worth the trouble to divide by 0.99. Baby Bunny
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 15, 2024 12:49pm
Thanks for your input guys. I built a model that calculates the change in NAV as a result of buybacks based on this discussion. Using the following inputs: max NCIB at $6.5 (com) and $17.5 (pref); SIB1 for 15% of o/s at $7.5 (com) and 20% of o/s at $18 (pref); and, SIB2 for 20% of o/s at $9 (com) and 30% of o/s at $20 (pref). I get a NAV of $17.74 pu.
Comment by babybunny on Mar 14, 2024 2:43pm
Thanks for providing the calculations Torontojay ... I was just too lazy for a long post.   The shortcut estimate I use is nearly exact for small buybacks such as 1%.  As the size of the buyback increases, the boost to NAV grows even larger than my shortcut suggests.  For medium-sized buybacks such as 10%, the difference is noteworthy but not fundamentally different ... in ...more  
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 14, 2024 2:48pm
You might need to sharpen your pencil and bust out your calculator here soon -- hopefully!!  As I noted Bunny, the impact compounds - this is how I envision an upward price spiral through asset monetization to arbitrage the discolation between private valuation selling price and implied valuation of public unit price. 
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 15, 2024 1:48pm
For all the visual learners:  https://x.com/alphafortuna10/status/1768683329228783645?s=46&t=c3ZJB3W5JdjUXgGKfBn01g
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 15, 2024 1:49pm
Inputs are on the second tweet in a more readable way then how I presented them here for you. Would love anyone's thoughts including the Snake on the inputs. I have already reconciled the common math with your calculation TJ - I think prefs are simple enough that I didn't f it up. Cheers.
Comment by garyreins on Mar 15, 2024 2:13pm
I dont see the point in trying to determine how buybacks will bump nav....nav is meangingless really as we see.  AFFO per share is a better metric to calculate.  
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