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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

TSX:BBD.A - Post Discussion

Bombardier Inc. > They finally did it to us
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Post by BBDB859 on Jun 10, 2022 8:12am

They finally did it to us

I stand by my post to Flamingo bellow from yesterday. That the Family did this to us. I've slept on it, and figured out why the Family did it to us.

Club and others here were right. Doing a R/S on it's own without the a dilutive OFFERING to get rid of the debt, just doesn't make sense. Well it does make sense to me now that I've slept on it.

-They're doing this R/S quickly. Plan 1.
-The split is huge 25 to 1. They don't have the shares to do an Offering now.
-They can't issue more shares right away to reduce the Debt.
-They have the same problem as before after the R/S. They don't have the shares to issue more shares without getting diluted themselves.
-So they R/S and start using the remaining cash from the Bomber's +FCF from the Bomber coffers to Buy shares Publicly and they'll call it Share BuyBacks.
-Once they have bought enough, and have taken out these thieving Manipulators. The Family will make a Public offering for 200M shares at $30.00/share and dilute us.
-The Byuers of this Offering will be subordinate to the Family's control as usual.
-But the Family will have almost all the outstanding shares out there as the outstading shares have now been consolidated 25 to 1..

This is the only thing that makes sense. The Family knows the VALUE of the stand alone BJ division. They bought whatever they could from the Shareholders the last 3 years now with their own money, because the price was depressed. They now did a R/S and are going to buy the rest of the Shareholders shares in bunches. They are going to blame the Market Makers for the lower price after the R/S too. Just as they did all along, these past 3 years, to buy back the company control and pay off Debt.

Do I want to be part of that???? I have no choice. They control the Stock with the Dual Share Structure.They are doing this right in front of our eyes. Why?? Because they can. They've learned these dirty tricks from the Market Makers and all the Fire sales that they had to do to get rid of, or give away most of the company in the last 3 years. Now it's payback time to the Market Makers. But the part that hurts is, is that along with the MM's thay are destroying the real Shareholders. US LONGS

My strategy has certainly changed here, seeing all this unfolding now. I honestly thought that they were scaring the MM's with this R/S, to let the SP climb. But they were planning this for something else. I'm prepared for all the changes coming up, and they will come fast, and furious.

This is our reward for staying faithful. They are diluting us in a year or two, and they are going to use the Company's profits to do it. Then they will Dilute the balance of our investments. We are the ones that will have for the Family to get RICHER. Now I see why Johnny is so upset.

I have NO RESPECT LEFT FOR THIS COMPANY now.
Comment by raphaelle2 on Jun 10, 2022 8:52am
The scenario yr describing 859 is exactly the opposite of their ( the Family) past and still ongoing track record with BRP. I tend to believe that their future action with BA will be similar, but I might be wrong ( like you !). First I want to check if the institutional investors will finally jump in. Can you find many co with 100% upside right now? In a relatively stable environment compared to ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Jun 10, 2022 8:48pm
LET US WAIT AND SEE and when all you accusation prove to be wrong i hope you will come back to this post and EXECUSE YOUR SELF  amd may be change your posting name one more time as you changed it from 145 to 859  by the way, why did you change your stockhouse user name??
Comment by BBDB859 on Jun 11, 2022 10:25am
Hey Sham I'm waiting and seeing and maybe what say will happen. What else can I do? The Family makes all the decisions for us. They call the shots. Do you think that the Bomber shares will go to $54 a share in a year? That's when we'll double our current investment next. When we were at $1.20, all we had to get to was $2.40/share. If you want to triple our investment now? Then we ...more  
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Jun 11, 2022 11:35am
859 - You're letting the big numbers get to you, the ratio is the same. 54$ now or 2.40$ then wouldn't have come any faster/slower. They're doing the rs for a reason, at least the hope it's going to have a positive impact on the way the business is seen. The family as always been in control, nothing changes unless they want it to. Hope the next few weeks/months end up showing us ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Jun 11, 2022 3:09pm
Nobody. please read the post I just posted to Ralph. Where you do the split is the difference. This Family as you say does what they want. That doesn't mean it's right. I've watched this Family make one mistake after the other. As for R/S. What's the damn hurry here? It's not like the CSeries where the program was going to make them go bankrupt. This a SP. This is external ...more  
Comment by raphaelle2 on Jun 11, 2022 11:57am
Hey 859, Your reasoning make no sense at all. SP increase from 1 to 2 or 3 $ is the same thing than a SP increase from 25 to 50 or 75$ after RS. Both represent 100 and 200% relative increase. Look at BRP ( DOO) SP variations during the last 3-5 years: from low 25 to high 125! Mind you BRP is attracting a very big proportion of large institutional firms. These guys know how to calculate and are not ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Jun 11, 2022 2:56pm
Hey Ralph. Sorry I didn't respond to you yesterday. Busy day. When I got in yesterday I was too tired after responding to LE to do it all. So I just responded to LE. I'm veging today so I'll get to them today. What you're saying bellow is Partially right that Institutional investors don't care about the nominal Price of the Shares. Yes they would pay $25, $50, $75 etc. and ...more  
Comment by raphaelle2 on Jun 11, 2022 9:38pm
Hi 859, Focussing only on potential SP variations in isolation is misleading. Particularly for BBD (with a negative book value per share equal to the actual SP! In my book the key factor which will drives the SP variations over a certain period is : Is this co. actual market value over or under estimates the future enterprize value VARIATIONS during the same period. Which has noting to do with SP. ...more  
Comment by johnney on Jun 12, 2022 10:56am
I sais this before, and will repeat in once more time, A WELFARE COMPANY! WE WILL SEE THIS' AND FAST TOO' REVERSE SPLIT + STRIKE' WHAT A DEAL ISN'T IT!!!
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