Post by
Socrates1 on Mar 22, 2021 8:23am
Restricted Share Units
All the bittching and whining yet none of you posted the RSU's value? That form of "bonus" is normal for 90% of companies and is another form of incentive to get SP higher!
An RSU at 2.50 will get you the difference from where the SP is trading at the yearly anniversary dates!
Next year if SP is at 5 bucks each RSU will allow you
1 to purchase said RSU awarded to you for 2.50
Or
2 sell your RSU for 5 bucks and pocket 2.50
ONLY IF SP GOES UP DOES IT matter and this should not even be discussed because is just normal operating procedure for most companys!
Hey v_ guerrio dude
Just bought 500k shares so now I have 605k! 5k more than you! Lololololol
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 22, 2021 9:38am
It's unlikely they care Socrates. Most likely the motivation is either long-standing venom towards Wilan or feeble manipulation to pick a few shares at a lower price.
Comment by
shareholders1 on Mar 22, 2021 10:23am
You may be confusing the RSU mechanics with those of share options. Most RSU plans award the value at that the time, in lieu of paying the CEO etc cash bonus it is paid in RSUs to align performance. Generally, there is not any future payment to be made by CEO etc. There may be vesting period.
Comment by
Justhalffull on Mar 22, 2021 12:39pm
Yoh are correctShareholders1. RSU’s are valued when they are cashed out, and the cash out value is considered income. It’s as if the company paid you with shares, but they are not taxed until you sell them.
Comment by
xanada2 on Mar 22, 2021 3:49pm
When RSU's are cashed out the cash out profit would be considered a capital gain for tax purposes and 50% of the gain would be taxed as income... This is why executives prefer RSU's vs Salary
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 22, 2021 4:17pm
That's true Bob. However, the corp and subs salaries are still modest imo.
Comment by
xanada2 on Mar 22, 2021 4:42pm
Brian i was just clarifying RSU taxation implications for those investors that (mis)understand executives compensation and might try to imply skulduggery where there probably isn't any.
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 22, 2021 4:52pm
I know that Bob. Imo, it's a well thought out comp plan.
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 22, 2021 6:17pm
I know that Bob. Imo, it's a well thought out comp plan.
Comment by
xanada2 on Mar 22, 2021 9:38pm
Just half full....thanks for the clarification....
Comment by
Socrates1 on Mar 23, 2021 8:31am
I participated through my last employer in an RSU rewards program for 6 years and the way I explained is the way it was! Could have more rules? Regardless of what you think of RSU's they only work if the valuation ie. SP goes up! I made out very well with mine!
Comment by
Justhalffull on Mar 23, 2021 10:15am
Just tell me the name of the company you worked for, and I will tell you what type of award you received. Likely some type of Restricted Stock Award or a Stock Option Award, but definately NOT restricted stock units. RSU's are exactly as I described, and you are issued a T4 with tax code 38 for all stock options that vest, on the vesting date, for the value when they vest.
Comment by
astutein on Mar 23, 2021 11:27am
RSU talk is meaningless. Let all of holders of RSU perform and everybody makes money
Comment by
barneyj44 on Mar 23, 2021 2:22pm
These guys aren't stupid Skippen had a juicy deal at the beginning when he would get a percentage of gross revenue , once the deals started slowing down his comp was switched.
Comment by
barneyj44 on Mar 23, 2021 3:09pm
Cabbie Skippens comp plan was changed years before Parker made his brief appearance. The fact of the matter is Quarterhill is still a show me company after how many decades!
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 23, 2021 3:16pm
It is a show me company for sure.
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 23, 2021 2:31pm
You'll have an opportunity to ask questions regarding the comp plan at the AGM halffull. I'll be listenting and possibly asking questions as well. Idon't have questions onthe comp plan, as I view it as solid. I do have questions on acquisition strategy tho. Time to step out from behind the keyboard.
Comment by
HardRockAngel on Mar 23, 2021 6:28pm
They only appear to take questions from analysts. Only time I was able to ask a question is when I went to an annual meeting in person.......They don't care about the average shareholders.....HRA
Comment by
Justhalffull on Mar 23, 2021 8:41pm
You are absolutely correct. On several occasions I have attempted to ask questions, but were always ignored. They take questions from analysts who are supporters of QTRH. Safe from critics.
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Mar 23, 2021 9:22pm
FUD. Read the circular HRA.