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Theratechnologies Inc. is a Canada-based clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company. The Company is focused on the development and commercialization of therapies addressing unmet medical needs. It markets prescription products for people with human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) in the United States. The Company's research pipeline focuses on specialized therapies addressing unmet medical needs... see more

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Theratechnologies Inc > So many questions about the patient protocol
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Post by SPCEO1 on Nov 19, 2021 4:02pm

So many questions about the patient protocol

Please see the two depictions of the patient protocol below which have raised a number of quesions for me. Admittedly, I may be a little slow when it comes to things like this but maybe some of you can help me out:

1.) Both protocols below indicate the  phase 1a will take 28 weeks. Was that just an unrealistic hope or do they count weeks differently since they did not update the second chart to include more weeks which clearly have been chewed up at this point?

2.) Notice we now have a whole new level on the second slide - 745 mg. If this level was found to be safe, would yet another  new level be added? How many can they add before they say it is time to stop even if no SAE's ever occur.

3.) While it appears they had no SAE's at the 420 level and that this is likely the fallback level for the MTD if SAE's are seen at the 540 level, if they had seen some at 420, could they just declare the 300 level as the MTD or would they need to go back and test some more patients. They surely could not declare it the MTD just based on one patient, right? Prehaps this is a moot point, however, as I suspect they do have multiple patients at the 420 level.

4.) Do they have to have at least 15 patients in the trial before it ends? If so, what does that mean for how long the trial might yet last? Can they knock out the extra patients very quickly?

5.) Why did the original slide have 3 patients at the 200 and 300 level but then they only apparently tested one patient each at those levels? 



Comment by SPCEO1 on Nov 19, 2021 4:10pm
I added another question - see below:
Comment by jfm1330 on Nov 19, 2021 4:47pm
I agree that there is a lack of clarity in all that escalation thing and they are moving much slower than expected. They are way behind the schedule I established back in June based on what they said back then. That being said, back in August they said that results could go as far as the begining of 2022. This is not a news. Obviously, I prefer this situation to a press release telling us the MTD ...more  
Comment by scarlet1967 on Nov 19, 2021 7:11pm
I have a go at it and I could be wrong but this is my educated guess backed by the trial’s design (modified rapid dose-escalation design as described by Simon et al.), I just want to add a couple things, DLT= two cases of SAE2 or one case of SAE3 or more adverse effects at any stage during dose escalation which is why I believe these slides are not factual for instance the second slide indicates ...more  
Comment by SPCEO1 on Nov 20, 2021 12:31pm
Thanks Scarlett1967 for the effort you put into your response. And thanks to the others that responded as well.  TH needs to do a better job of setting expectations around the timing of this phase 1a and how it actually will proceed. I am not sure why they failed to do so earlier and did not help investors understand that the patient protocol slide was just a best estimate of many possible ...more  
Comment by qwerty22 on Nov 20, 2021 1:04pm
Spring and summer a handful of patients were given relatively small doses. In the past couple of month a few more have been given the higher, more interesting doses. My guess is not a great deal has arisen from that limited pool of patients in terms of either efficacy or safety. I think safety is as has been described although it seems to me there could be some negatives hidden but that would ...more  
Comment by Wino115 on Nov 20, 2021 1:29pm
Best to prepare for what they designed it to give them --dosage and safety for part 2 to proceed, and be pleasantly surprised with all other data released if there is any.  I would hope that they would follow the examples we put up here (Prelude, SeaGen, Immu, etc.) and at least discuss some additional data around each key part of the PDC, even though we will all know it's not ...more  
Comment by Wino115 on Nov 19, 2021 5:55pm
My take, which probably has some errors. I do believe there's some footnotes to the new slide that explain it a bit better and they look cut off.  I think the way to look at the first version is that it is sort of like a decision tree explanation of a hypothetical version of the trial, prior to any actual trial data. For instance, they just throw in the fact that if a DLT is observed, you ...more  
Comment by jfm1330 on Nov 20, 2021 1:38pm
As I wrote here many times, we need to remember that all along the escalation process they had the pharmacokinetic data from previous patients at lower levels. Levesque said that what they see in humans for free docetaxel levels in the blood, after TH1902 injection, is simailar to what they saw in preclinical on mice, which is very low level of free docetaxel in the blood, and we know that most of ...more  
Comment by scarlet1967 on Nov 20, 2021 2:09pm
"Dose escalation by dose-doubling will be done for the first 2 dose levels, followed by a modified Fibonacci dose escalation scheme (i.e. dose increases of 67%, 50%, 40% and 33%) thereafter for each dose level." They dosed one single patient at the time and followed the dose escalation procedure described above. The first slide had only three patients which turned out to be more patients ...more  
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