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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Desert Mountain Energy Corp V.DME

Alternate Symbol(s):  DMEHF | V.DME.WT

Desert Mountain Energy Corp. is a Canada-based resource company primarily focused on the exploration, development and production of helium, hydrogen, natural gas and condensate. The Company is focused on helium extraction from different raw gas sources in an environmental and economical manner by supplying elements deemed critical to the renewable energy and high technology industries. Its... see more

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Desert Mountain Energy Corp > Long Term Price Target | 60 to 70 Wells | $1,100 per MCF
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Post by FilProTrading on Apr 10, 2021 12:53pm

Long Term Price Target | 60 to 70 Wells | $1,100 per MCF

Hello All, this is an update to the analysis I posted in December 2020. I am posting this update based on recent interviews from DME’s Management and as before, appreciate any feedback / corrections to the DD.
 
For this updated long term Price Target, I’m looking at where DME may be after the completion of 60 to 70 wells (with the 2021 private land acquisition) understanding the company is still pesenting this as taking 6 years and $45MM CAPEX. I would add $4MM to $8MM CAPEX to the $45MM still showing on the Investor Presentation on DME’s website since it also still shows 50 to 55 wells although a recent DME press release has updated this to 60 to 70 wells and based on an estimate of $400K CAPEX per well. 
 
The updated math I’ve done from the company’s presentation and recent PRs is as follows:
 
CAPEX for five (5) wells: $26,000,000
CAPEX Payback from production of five (5) wells: 18 months
 
(PREVIOUS DD – Still on DME’s Investor Presentation)
Annual Gross Revenue per well $275/mcf: $8,942,000 (average annual production of 32,516mcf per well)
Annual Gross Revenue from five (5) wells @ $275mcf: $44,710,000
18-months Gross Revenue from five (5) wells: $62,594,000
 
Continuing to use the analysis that all Net Income after tax, G&A and royalties was being applied as Payback to $26,000,000 CAPEX on five (5) wells, it now looks like the Annual Net Income per well at $275mcf is estimated at $3,714,507 (i.e. *$26,000,000/$62,594,000 = 41.54% |$8,942,000*0.4154 = $3,861,155). A little lower than before, but this is still based on $275mcf.
 
(NEW DD – Based on DME’s PR numbers)
Annual Gross Revenue per well $1,100/mcf: $35,767,600 (average annual of 32,516mcf per well)

Now this is where it gets interesting…I assume the G&A as a relatively fixed-cost does not increase with the potential $825mcf revenue increase (i.e. $275mcf to $1,100mcf). Then I'll assume that the G&A for DME as a vertically integrated company is 20% and as with G&A, Operating Expenses do not increase with the additional revenue of $875mcf. With these assumptions, this will increase the Net Income after tax and royalties to 61.54%. If this is accurate, then the Net Income per well at $1,100mcf is estimated at $22,011,381 (i.e. $35,767,600*0.6154)
 
If 60 to 70 wells is reached then the projected long-term Annual Net Income of the company after OpEx, tax, G&A and royalties could be between ~$1,320,682,860 to $1,540,796,670 (at a helium price of $1,100mcf).
 
Assuming the outstanding shares do not exceed 79,410,315, this gives an EPS range of $16.63 to $19.40. Using a P/E ratio of 15 (still best I could discern from looking at various O&G PE ratio averages, but understand that value of a Helium producer may not correlate well to those commodities), that gives a long-term Price Target of $250 to $290.

Quite frankly, it’s a bit mind-blowing if we get a share price anywhere in the triple digits and even more so, if we get close to this Price Target.

 
NOTE: One of the biggest Price Target variables in this estimate is the PE ratio of 15. I feel another method for valuation should be using a Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) model with maybe a 7-8% discount (although with a weakening USD perhaps this discount would be offset by increasing helium prices). That said, I am not sure how to establish the Terminal Value using a DCF model, so if anyone has experience with DCF models it would be great to get your insights.

GLTA and appreciate any and all feedback!
Comment by Bertie20 on Apr 10, 2021 1:52pm
Hi. As before, this all looks sound to me. Your revenue per well figure is also very much in line with Don Mosher's too. Mind blowing, indeed.... I just want to make two points: one cautionary, the other upbeat. Caution first: it's important to not get ahead of ourselves. We've only drilled three wells, and only two were tested. That context is worth emphasizing when we're ...more  
Comment by FilProTrading on Apr 10, 2021 2:20pm
Hi Bertie, Thank you for taking a look at my new post and the feedback provided. I definitely agree that it is important for all of us to temper expectations given the long road (with known and unknown risks) ahead of us whether it be identifying and succeeding at future well sites, building the solar farm, building the processing plant (first one and then I believe up to three to increase ...more  
Comment by Bertie20 on Apr 10, 2021 3:00pm
Smart idea with the options: the stock market cannot keep rising for ever. A correction at some stage is inevitable. One last thought on revenue-per-well: one downside factor to consider is depletion rate. I don't know what to expect in this regard, though I did once read that helium wells deplete slower (around 5% p.a.) than standard natural gas wells. Whatever the case, though, by the time ...more  
Comment by Buyhigheatchips on Apr 11, 2021 1:42pm
In the podcast Robert says "in excess of 15 years" when asked about the lifespan of the project.  Also notable, the host a little earlier says he was told by Don that $35M per well pa is possible which aligns with FilPro's analysis. Remind me again why so many of us sat on our hands at $1.60...
Comment by FilProTrading on Apr 12, 2021 3:28pm
Yes, my personal feeling is that the US stock market will see some level of correction this summer based on a variety of factors (I've seen several estimates of -10-15%, if not more). My hope is to be properly positioned for that possibility and take advantge through a sizable hedge which I can then use to increase my position in several commodity-based equities (DMEHF being a key position for ...more  
Comment by Messi09 on Apr 12, 2021 11:21am
I'm not a numbers guy or one to break it down so diligently like you so my only question is in reference to something Robert said in an interview. He mentioned he wouldn't sell below $30 a share. If your estimate is in the triple digits wouldn't Roberts threshold be higher than just $30? I know we do not have a crystal ball into his logic but that gap in your logic and his made me ...more  
Comment by Boscoe2015 on Apr 12, 2021 11:35am
I also found this $30 number interesting. I'm sure there's some thinking to those numbers being an engineer and al. Realistically if helium is such a necessity for a specific end user why wouldn't they buy it? Financially sound decision. Jmo.
Comment by FilProTrading on Apr 12, 2021 3:35pm
I initially had a similar thought when I heard Robert allude to "not entertaining an offer below $30". My sense is that the mention of $30 is more based on Robert's conservative and methodical approach to running DME and not being promotional with projections about the long-term future. If he were to throw out a number in the triple digits before drilling is even complete on wells 4 ...more  
Comment by Biloxibuzz on Apr 12, 2021 3:48pm
Exactly my point, I agree with you 100%.
Comment by Buyhigheatchips on Apr 11, 2021 3:45pm
Based on your analysis and assuming a successful execution of the 2021 plan it seems possible to hit an EOY price target of $20 per share. Given that a lot of derisking will have taken place (six wells drilled, reserves calculated, facilities built, buyers revealed) it doesn't seem that wild. Thoughts?
Comment by Fredo51545 on Apr 11, 2021 10:27pm
FilPro' You left out two expenses. 1- DME pays the state of AZ $1million per well for each well that has a calculated reserve estimate. 2- DME must pay the state and private landowners a 12.5% royalty on gross revenue. Furthermore, there is a 3.5% severance tax on oil and gas. It does not apply to helium but it is not out of the realm of possibility that the state will extend the tax to ...more  
Comment by GoldenArm on Apr 12, 2021 9:17am
That royalty seems crazy high for a gross revenue. You may want to check that. I would make the royalty only for the crude gas removed and not the refined gas.
Comment by FilProTrading on Apr 12, 2021 4:07pm
Hi Fredo...taxes and royaliites are covered in my estimate as they were loaded into the profit calculation I derived from DME's 18-month payback at $275mcf for 5 wells. Specifically, I am only estimating $22MM of $35.7MM annual revenue per well at $1,100mcf would be profit. $13.7M is atrributed to taxes, royalties and some level of OpEx (unless fully covered by Argon sales).
Comment by Fredo51545 on Apr 12, 2021 7:39pm
Got it. My mistake.
Comment by piperman60 on Apr 15, 2021 6:30pm
Full Disclosure (pure speculation):  I was listening to the Super Charged Stocks podcast show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07WgqvPvD_o&t=977s and Andrew mentioned that Taiwan Semiconductor is going to be building a plant in Arizon starting this summer.  I have never heard their name mentioned on this message board or by Robert or Don (obviously they aren't allowed to) but i ...more  
Comment by Buyhigheatchips on Apr 15, 2021 7:05pm
Definitely possible. In 2024. 
Comment by 12groundpounder on Apr 16, 2021 12:06am
I believe Taiwan semiconductor is the biggest chip maker in the world. They need helium to layer the most technologically advanced chips as they make them. They are spending 28 billion this year Intel 24 billion. Intel Missed their target and missed production targets for the seven chip and now the 10. 100 miles from Desert Mountain energy Intel is building two facilities for making chips for a ...more  
Comment by 12groundpounder on Apr 16, 2021 12:33am
With automated vehicles trucks cars buses they will have up to 15 to 17 computers massive liquid helium hard drives to make them half the size but 50% more efficient to save using 28% more of the battery electricity. The 5G network that's 150 times faster will run and handle the car and data artificial intelligence and data centers. Helium will cool all the hard drives computer chips and data ...more  
Comment by piperman60 on Apr 16, 2021 4:02pm
Six big companies alone could buy  all the helium that Desert Mountain energy Is going to produce.   Dumb question but why don't they just buy DME and keep all the helium for themselves?  I know Robert said $30 minimum but couldn't they do a hostile takeover?  Does RR have 50% of the shares?  Probably not.
Comment by Buyhigheatchips on Apr 17, 2021 9:11am
I wouldn't sell my shares. Would you? 
Comment by Buyhigheatchips on Apr 17, 2021 9:19am
Also it's not that easy... https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hostiletakeover.asp Management could enact a shareholder's rights plan to ward it off.
Comment by Buyhigheatchips on Apr 17, 2021 9:24am
If anything, a takeover bid would be additional validation for current shareholders. Good luck getting their shares then! (ok I'm done).
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