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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum FormerXBC Inc XEBEQ

Xebec Adsorption Inc designs, engineers, and manufactures products that are used for purification, separation, dehydration, and filtration equipment for gases and compressed air. The company operates in three reportable segments: Systems, Corporate and other, and Support. Its product lines are natural gas dryers for natural gas refueling stations, compressed gas filtration, biogas purification,... see more

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FormerXBC Inc > Wouldn't it be nice
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Post by tamaracktop on Jul 27, 2021 3:31pm

Wouldn't it be nice

Wouldn't it be nice if the recent biostream order included a commitment in the form of a down payment?
A gesture of good faith?
I'm not familiar with their accounting practices but I'm thinking 20% down would be a boost to Q2 revenues of $5-$6 million with little or no associated costs.
Now That would do a number on their margins!
Comment by trek01 on Jul 27, 2021 7:19pm
This is actually a practice when purchasing large equipment. I've seen 30-60% down with the order, another payment to make it 80-90% once equipment shipped, and the 10-20% after commissioning. But who knows how's their master service agreement structured.
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Jul 27, 2021 8:09pm
well if that happens to be the case then 30 percent would add 10.5 million to revenue. That would surely put them over 30 million for a q. That would be amazing if they produced 30 million in q2 but I am gonna stick to my estimate of 26 million.
Comment by savyinvestor333 on Jul 27, 2021 8:32pm
I am definitly not an accountant and someone else can probably opine on this better but I think they can not claim revenues until the actual work is completed. Isn't that what caused the problem a couple of quarters ago?  Claiming revenues for work not completed?
Comment by tamaracktop on Jul 27, 2021 9:01pm
I believe that problem was caused by claiming revenues for work that was completed but never paid for because the customer defaulted. In that case I believe the amount was $5 million. The component parts were then allocated to another project. This is entirely different. I could be wrong.
Comment by sumpineh on Jul 27, 2021 9:38pm
In our business,if we had a large commercial contract,we could invoice for a monthly draw based on how much of the work had been completed in that period.We would recieve a cheque 21 days later minus a 10% holdback.This helped to pay wages and material costs which would have incurred interest. It was considered a sale in the month that it was billed as opposed to a deposit which was not counted ...more  
Comment by HonestAl on Jul 29, 2021 3:09pm
TT. said  "..t I'm thinking 20% down would be a boost to Q2 revenues of $5-$6 million with little or no associated costs... -------------------- Wouldn't a down payment be classified as Unearned Revenue and not affect the Q2 revenues?
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