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AvenEx Energy Corp > Points to ponder
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Post by kingofcotton on Feb 11, 2013 9:13pm

Points to ponder

1. Sale of Elbow River properties constituted sale of substantially all of AvenEx, but no shareholder vote yet
2. Conflict of interest with excessive pay-outs to directors at AvenEx and Pace
3. Dividend reduced, and possibly terminated after 6 months
4. Sale price for Elbow River appears to be under-valued 
5. Rush to sell Elbow River appears related to under-valued sale price
6. Proxy vote cut-off (February 13) before knowing whether Elbow River sale closes (February 15)
7. Arrangement does not make business sense since
A. Charger verging on insolvency
B. Previously AvenEx had been in good financial shape, but if Arrangement goes through, Spyglass is much riskier
C. Net capital allowance of $900 million indicates the lack of past success of the participants to the Arrangement
D. Huge self-serving employment termination payments at AvenEx and Pace
8. Corporate Governance Misconduct? Gallacher, Dundas, and Buchanan all on the Board of Directors at Athabasca, and appear to be using AvenEx as a cash machine to pursue their own self-serving interests
9. Lack of disclosure
A. Verbal reports
B. Unaudited financial statements
C. “Secret” Peters and Co. Report unavailable to shareholders
D. No clear disclosure by AvenEx of the additional sales of real estate and oil properties in Q4 2012, nor their contribution to cash flow
E. No clear shareholders’ resolution
10. The cash flow from Elbow River and from the oil properties provided a “natural hedge” in the sense that higher price differentials between Alberta oil and World (Brent) oil resulted in higher cash flow for Elbow River when the cash flow from the oil properties was reduced.  With the proposed sale of Elbow River, the cash flow stream is much riskier.  Spyglass would be higher risk whereas AvenEx was medium risk.
11. Investors in AvenEx purchased shares for the income stream, but over half the distributable cash flow is gone with the proposed sale of Elbow River
12. Incompetence relating to the reorganization, as an example, inconsistencies in statement such as “In conjunction with the Arrangement, AvenEx has reached a binding agreement for the sale of its Elbow River Marketing business” (AvenEx Material Change Form, December 20, 2012) suggesting that AvenEx shareholders would need to approve the Elbow River sale; however “Closing is presently scheduled for February 15, 2013” (Joint Information Circular, January 18, 2013) subsequently appears.
13. How can shareholders vote on Elbow River if the sale closes before the shareholders’ meeting?  This critical information is buried on page 111 of the Circular.
14.  Why the obscure golfing references?  Until recently the name of the Spyglass presentation on the Pace and Charger websites was called “Project Pebble Beach - v.Final”.  (This was just recently re-named.)  And, of course, “Spyglass” is a golf course at Pebble Beach.  Does anyone know how these references to Pebble Beach fit into this “Arrangement”?  Is AvenEx planning to buy real estate for directors at Pebble Beach?
 
Comment by Kherson on Feb 11, 2013 10:29pm
 Good stuff Kingofcotton. I will be calling management again, about youir point 14. I already have called them about another concern but they still haven't gotten back to me...  Spyglass, Pebble Beach now that is truly interesting. If the merger does goes through, maybe Tom will take us shareholders golfing with him to Pebble Beach... Kherson
Comment by deisman on Feb 12, 2013 2:19am
GREAT POST kingofcotton.   I just voted my shares against.  Not necessarily because I think that AVF will appreciate in value if the merger is stopped.  But  as a protest vote against the management and the way they've mishandled  everything.  Also because I want to see Joe eat his hat.    I can't believe I've waited this long.
Comment by dvdfreak on Feb 12, 2013 4:06am
https://www.marketwire.com/press-release/pace-oil-gas-ltd-sets-record-straight-encourages-shareholders-vote-plan-arrangement-tsx-pce-1755451.htm
Comment by twpt on Feb 12, 2013 10:26am
Ponder this you crybabys, if you don't like the merger sell your shares and get lost. All you morons do is devalue the stock wether merged or not. That is why you have a sell button, use it.
Comment by rad10 on Feb 12, 2013 10:41am
Why would I sell at a very deep discount to the asset value and at a considerable loss - retard.  The sale of ER alone is worth almost a buck fifty.   Nobody is crying here.  Sorry this sleazy "get rich quick" scheme at the expense of common share holders is falling apart - but save your tears for your cronies.............
Comment by deisman on Feb 12, 2013 10:45am
Hey twpt, looks like that's whats happening, and down.....down....down.... Goes the share price for all three companies. 
Comment by pone on Feb 12, 2013 1:25pm
kingofcotton, that is an *excellent* summary of legitimate shareholder concerns and reasons why the sale of Elbow River and Avenex should not be allowed to happen.   First question:  based on closing dates, is it reasonable to surmise here that the sale of Elbow river has as a closing condition the approval of the sale of Avenex?  Why else would they make the closing date two days ...more  
Comment by pone on Feb 12, 2013 1:53pm
kingofcotton, another point is that if the sale of Elbow River has a closing condition that Avenex sale must be approved, then why weren't shareholders notified of that fact?  At minimum someone should sue to get a proper disclosure to shareholders of the consequence of their vote.
Comment by Kingscourt on Feb 12, 2013 2:08pm
Great post twpt! Especially the name calling bit. To suggest that the devaluation of this stock is because of a few posts on this bullboard puts a grin on my face. My buy in price was $5.63/share. The valuation has been deteriorating  long before this merger was announced. We all eagerly await any more insight you care to share with us. 
Comment by eusdond on Feb 12, 2013 4:08pm
I think a class action suit is definately in order and I am also wondering if there might  be criminal charges to be considered against certain individuals within AVX as well...
Comment by eusdond on Feb 12, 2013 4:13pm
From the content and style of his post it's plain to see that He is a mental giant___   I can't stop laughing...
Comment by thomas35 on Feb 12, 2013 4:14pm
LOL
Comment by Joe454 on Feb 12, 2013 5:01pm
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Comment by pone on Feb 12, 2013 7:03pm
kingofcotton, are you available for a question by email?  I am persistentone AT spamarrest.com
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