bobo178 You might want to take some time to read some info which is easy to find on the internet on the manipulation. Try the GATA webpage or read any of John Embry's recent articles. You will see the people doing the manipulation aren't little green men as you would say, rather they are traders working for the bullion banks (Goldman Sach's, JP Morgan Chase) on behalf of the Western Central Banks. Also just to let you know we are quite beyond the point of even disputing if there is any manipulation. It's just an accepted fact(Blanchard Lawsuit).