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Trillion Energy International Inc. C.TCF

Alternate Symbol(s):  TRLEF | C.TCF.WT

Trillion Energy International Inc. is a Canada-based oil and gas producing company that strives to maximize shareholder value through a mix of offshore gas development and high-impact oil and gas exploration in Cudi-Gabar province SE Turkey. The Company is 49% owner of the South Akcakoca Sub-Basin (SASB) natural gas field, a natural gas development project with four offshore platforms, pipelines and gas plant located in shallow water black sea. The Company also has the Vranino 1-11 block, a prospective unconventional natural gas property in Bulgaria.


CSE:TCF - Post by User

Post by javaman12on Sep 21, 2022 10:42pm
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Post# 34978099

RE:RE:Are traders Driving This Stock Price Down?

RE:RE:Are traders Driving This Stock Price Down?  After giving some additional thought to this matter, I now realize that every retail investor might like to get the better price. Yet there remains the hedge fund crowd who can always seem to out-smart and out-compete us in our speed of making trades.

  They use AI and computer assisted trading to learn and move much faster with their trades than anyone of us, might be able to imagine. They have the ability to short the stock and buy it back with such amazing speeds that no one is aware of what is really going on. 

 Sure these high volumes of trades are simply astounding but is this of any real benefit to present day shareholders or the companies of which they choose to purchase?

 It may give the wrong impression that a lot of new investors are coming into the fold, whereas perhaps little of this, new found interest, may actually be happening at all.

  These slick operators are just skimming small profits with each trade but in the process making huge profits with the volume of trades that they are making. 

  I guess I was naive in thinking that a few retail investors could be responsible for this kind stock market manipulation. Sorry about that! I still have a few more lessons to be taught!

  I saw this internet post just a few minutes ago as I did some preliminary research:

  A certain "Aaron Brown with an MBA in Finance & Statistics (academic discipline), The University of Chicago Booth School of Business (Graduated 1982)Upvoted by 

"...Most computer algorithms used by hedge funds to trade, mimic what human traders do, just more systematically, faster and cheaper.

For example, a human trader trying to build a position of 100,000 shares of a stock will allocate the orders among different exchanges, dark pools and other venues; feeding it in slowly enough to minimize price impact, but fast enough to get it executed before the price moves too much for unrelated reasons. Computers do the same thing, but much better.

For another example, a value investor looks for stocks with solid value selling below that value. A human reads reports, talks to management, customers and suppliers, examines industry and economic data and so on, to form an opinion. The analyst might come up with 20 good picks, and expect 16 of them to beat the market.

A value factor computer algorithm will look at far more data, but not the subjective, qualitative data from talking to management (some machine learning algorithms try to duplicate this as well, but this is not the main way computers are used for stock selection today). It might select 2,000 stocks, and hope that 1,020 of them beat the market. Although its success ratio is not as high as the best humans, the extra diversification from the larger portfolio offsets some of the difference. Then the computer is cheaper, faster, and make fewer errors; and the algorithm can be continually improved while humans tend to reach a certain level of competence and then stagnate or even decline..."

 I am not convinced that this is an ethical practice at least from the retail investor's point of view but I guess it's not illegal. Afterall, apparently many financial institutions, other investment houses or even pension funds, now use these kind of market makers, using perhaps questionable practices, to help maximize their profits.

 So I guess the longs here may stand dead in the water, at least for awhile, investing at a significant disadvantage. They might get lucky with an unexpected sudden upward move in their share price but they had better be in a position to get the h*ll out their holdings and in the most timely fashion.

 There is also this remote hope to which some longs may cling with some eager fascination: perhaps some suitor may strike a deal and buy their company outright in some kind of favorable M&A, a takeover move of their shares.

 A long shot like this can still happen, once in awhile. And even AI cannot predict this kind of move exactly but it may be able to somewhat reduce the odds in selecting a fund's best course of action in this regard. That may be a worthwhile pursuit with which to ethically use an AI formula.

 Maybe it's OK that a hedge fund may be one of the active participants, in driving down the share price of Trillion Energy, as well as many other perfectly sound companies, which may actually deserve, much better treatment. 

 It's all good! This is an expression of the best form of capitalism, hard at work, maximizing its profit potential at the retail investor's expense.

  However, this notion has a familiar ring to me. Isn't this kind of trading, the sort of mechanism that drove many disgruntled American investors, to fight back, by driving up Gamestop shares, so blindly higher!

  Frustration leads to contempt! I am of the opinion that shorting stocks as an ethical consideration, would be better suited to driving down the shares of companies that truly deserve that fate. And many such companies do really exist!

  They do await their fate. It always eventually comes, just like death and taxes does to human beings. Shorting those shares, just speeds up the process!

  But good companies may also fail, simply because they can't get the funding that they truly deserve. A low share price keeps a lot of potential investors away. They may not be willing or able to accept the possible risk. Why is the share price so low in the first place? 

                          Sometimes what is still legal does not always seem so fair, or does it?

                                                          Laws can be changed!

                                     It's all a matter of personal perspective. What is yours?

                                                             All the best! Java

  


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