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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Compliance Energy Corp CPYCF

Compliance Energy Corp Is a Canada-based exploration and development company. The company is engaged in the exploration and development of resource properties. The firm is an exploration and development company working on resource properties it has staked or acquired, principally on Vancouver Island. It has interest in Comox Joint Venture (CJV), which holds the Raven Underground Coal Mining... see more

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Compliance Energy Corp > Raven Mine Facts vs Misinformation...
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Post by 2guys on Oct 03, 2012 10:24pm

Raven Mine Facts vs Misinformation...

Don't know what mokita's agenda is, but all issues are being considered and dealt with. This is not the EA panel where enviromentalists can make a difference.

Manipulating investors so they can lose money through misinformation about the responsible procedures being undertaken by CEC will not make a difference here to the EA process. It can only mislead investors.

It only takes a few minutes to find out the truth. Here's but some. atb

https://www.theravenproject.ca/qa/misinformation/

Coal Mine Misinformation

Many people have expressed concern with misinformation being circulated on the internet. We would like to take this opportunity to provide the public with project facts:
  • Federal and provincial laws protect shellfish, salmon and other aquatic species in Baynes Sound.
  • Federal and provincial laws protect drinking water.
  • Detailed aquifer mapping will be completed as part of the federal and provincial environmental assessment process.
  • Coal is routinely transported safely through populated areas in British Columbia. There is little potential for dust generation from this project.

See below for further corrections to recent inaccurate claims about the project:

Misinformation:

The mine will destroy tributaries to Cowie Creek and impact salmon bearing streams.

Fact:

The Raven Project will not affect salmon bearing streams. Environmental studies indicate the mine will affect a small, mainly seasonal drainage within the Cowie Creek watershed. Since the mine surface facilities are proposed to be located approximately two kilometres upstream of a natural barrier, no salmon or steelhead trout use this small seasonal drainage. A small population of stream resident cutthroat trout may use this drainage and may be affected by the project. Federal law requires the project create replacement fish habitat for habitat that is determined to be adversely affected by the mine.

Misinformation:

Heavy metal leakage and acid rock drainage will have a negative impact on the Baynes Sound watershed as a whole, threatening aquatic life and putting the important Baynes Sound aquaculture industry at risk. This industry employs over 500 local people and their jobs could be permanently shut down by this project.

Fact:

The project will not affect Baynes Sound. Provincial and federal law require the project be designed and managed to protect shellfish, salmon and other aquatic species in all waterways, including Baynes Sound.

Misinformation:

Aquifer mapping has not been completed in the project area, and no one knows what the impact on the local water table will be.

Fact:

Professional hydrogeologists will complete detailed aquifer mapping and modeling as part of the provincial and federal environmental assessment process. Almost all of the water used in the coal washing process is expected to be recycled. Any water released will meet or be better than government water quality standards.

Misinformation:

The coal from the mine would add millions of tonnes of climate-change-causing greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Fact:

The Raven Project will abide by all provincial and federal laws in regard to greenhouse gas emissions.

Misinformation:

It is critical that the environmental assessment of Compliance Coal Corporation’s proposed Raven Underground Coal Project be referred to a joint federal/provincial independent expert Review Panel for full public hearings.

Fact:

The Raven Project must meet the requirements of a rigorous provincial and federal environmental assessment process. The project will be reviewed over multiple years by a technical, scientific, government and community representatives to ensure social and environmental values are protected. Opportunities for public input will be provided at every stage of the project.

Misinformation:

Mining, storing, loading and transporting coal will cause serious issues with coal dust in the nearby communities

Fact:

There is little potential for dust generation. On-site coal stockpiles will be minimized and will contain moisture that assists in eliminating dust. Transportation trucks will be covered. The coal stockpile facility at Port Alberni and the conveyor systems will be enclosed. Air quality will be monitored throughout the project, as part of the project’s ongoing environmental management plan.

Coal is routinely safely transported through populated areas in British Columbia.

Misinformation:

The Comox Joint Venture (CJV) is also planning to develop the Bear deposit, an open-pit mine near Cumberland.

Fact:

Holding mineral rights to an area does not mean there is a mineable product in the ground. The Raven Project has no plans to develop the Bear deposit at this time.

Any new large-scale mining project is subject to an environmental assessment application process.

Comment by supra48 on Oct 03, 2012 11:42pm
Thanks for that 2guys you are so right! Mokita and others have only been on the board weeks or months and only post about CEC. They probaly wouldnt even know how to place a trade lol......
Comment by chrisale on Oct 04, 2012 12:59am
I've been on the board for nearly two years lurking and over a year posting.  I never came here to trade.  I came here to show potential investors the grave concerns people have about CEC.  And to expose the misinformation that CEC continues to perpetrate and that is thus a risk not only to the environmental and local people directly in the path of this mine, but also to ...more  
Comment by chrisale on Oct 04, 2012 1:20am
We may not know mokita's agenda, but we yours is quite clear 2guys.  To support Raven and increase the value of the stock. On any issue it is always far more instructive to look at the concerns of those who have the most to lose, rather those who have the most to gain.  Why?  Because those who gain tend to look past the negative no matter what it is.  Where as those who ...more  
Comment by 2guys on Oct 04, 2012 8:10am
Who has the most to gain chris?   You fail to realize that most investors here will not make anywhere near the money those who get jobs directly or indirectly from Raven will.   You also fail to realize the effect you and your cohorts have in manipulating investors who stand to lose if they sell.   You yourself have said that you believe Raven will eventually get their permit yet ...more  
Comment by chrisale on Oct 04, 2012 10:42am
Jobs:  the jobs fallacy perpetrated by big business to support unfettered and unaccountable development is the great lie of our time.  The fact is there is always another development and there can always be a better project, that will provide the same jobs and saying good wages.   Investors standing to lose:  let's get real here.  Raven is a penny stock.  Unless ...more  
Comment by mokita on Oct 04, 2012 11:47am
the greatest fallacy that impacts community and environmental health is that coal mining contributes to Canadian economy.  See DFO website for using this fallacy to justify failing to protect fish bearing watersources from coal mining toxins that are considered the biggest source of global water pollution and BC does not include the thousands of tonnes of methane and C02 emissions in its ...more  
Comment by 2guys on Oct 04, 2012 12:54pm
Chris A.  you are nothing but a manipulative individual who cares little to anyone but yourself.   I'm surprised you don't understand that taking an environmental stand which is fine by me, is quite different from coming here to manipulate investors on your so-called beliefs and misrepresentations from a blog.   You are treading on thin ice my friend.  You should never ...more  
Comment by chrisale on Oct 04, 2012 3:18pm
Ignoring your personal attacks..... That seems to me like a pretty thinly veiled threat 2guys. Is this your strategy now? Just what are you threatening with... you have nothing to lose, you're anonymous after all. Go ahead, inform me. All you are doing by launching thinly veiled threats is hurting your own credibility. Nothing on this website should be used as a final decision on any ...more  
Comment by 2guys on Oct 04, 2012 3:57pm
I don't give a rat's behind what you do Chris A.  I commend you for revealing you true identity and for believing so much in your space and your traffic, but coming here and misleading investors who may lose money, be it a lot or a little, if they sell their shares, if in fact CEC is able to get a permit is treading on thin ice.   Good luck.  State you're opinions ...more  
Comment by chrisale on Oct 04, 2012 10:57pm
I have mislead no one.  Anyone who is open to the facts knows this.   You point out where you think I have mislead and prove it.
Comment by mokita on Oct 05, 2012 12:13pm
common tactic when the evidence does not support claims is to attack the person.  The economic facts provide argument enough for investing elsewhere and rejecting CEC greenwashing claims.   Winter of discontent for China coal trade as credit cut Published: Tuesday, 25 Sep 2012 | 5:00 PM ET   SHANGHAI, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Chinese banks are cutting lending to coal ...more  
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