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Ventura Cannabis and Wellness Corp CVHIF

Ventura Cannabis and Wellness Corp is a vertically integrated, California-based products cannabis company. The company is currently building out its distribution channel through revenue-sharing agreements with owner-operator of cannabis dispensaries to ensure it's products get premium shelf space. The Company plans to target four segments in the U.S. cannabis and CBD market with products suited to their needs: senior citizens, upwardly mobile middle-aged female professionals, upwardly mobile middle-aged male professionals and individuals suffering from addiction.


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Comment by Xiawen13on Nov 14, 2016 10:12am
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Cash flow positive | year end run up

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Cash flow positive | year end run upYes you are perfectly right Chase.

The important detail here is that the SP dropping to .08 already factored in the deficit we spent building the facilites. So any profit or positive operating margins from now on should be a very strong catalysis for our SP to move upward.



ChaseYourDream wrote: Xiawen... Awesome. I am still newbie enough that I had not clued in to the nuance, while I knew there is one, until now!

Have I got this right?

Debt is money the company has had to borrow and muct repay someday

Accumulated Deficit or Deferred Revenues are the sum amount of past losses which failed to deliver value to shareholder investments at the time, and represent how much faith (equity) shareholders have put into the company at shareholder expense, without an immediate ROI. It is not owed to anyone other than us, and will never be repaid as a debt, but rather as the yield on our investment both in terms of future revenues adn dividends, but (mostly) in SP appreciation. Just as if I had sunk $11 million into my own company, which later turns a profit and starts paying me back. But my share of Convalo is far from 100% LOL

Do I have this right?

I think my concern holds to the degre that a company must become and remain profitable long-term, and a history of rising deficit indicates trouble!

GLTA CYD

Xiawen13 wrote: Thanks Chase, 

deficit is not DEBT. If we start making 500k than 1MIL and more per quarter in operating cash flow, with 10MIL net cash in the bank, than our business value will explode.

the fact that a deficit of many MIl dollars was need to create a profitable
business wont matter. Our actual market cap is actually based on our asset value, and any profit is money in the bank for shareolder. Why do you feel we have to "cover" our past deficit to be profitable?

if we start making money the market will give us a good edidta or earning mutltiple for our marketcap (i think our SP will literraly explode). 

ChaseYourDream wrote: Xiawen, TY for asking.

I expect the Cash Flow in Q3 itself to be positive, that is more revenue in the quarter will be generated than total expenses for a net gain. It might be $1,000 or $100,000 or $1,000,000. Let's say it is $500,000. Now the loss from the previous two quarters is still part of FY2017, so $500,000 to the positive side in NET will not immediately make Convalo profitable for the entire year.

The net loss in Q!+Q2 is almost 8 million, against a $1.2 million net gain in the previous 15-month cycle on much smaller gross revenue. So with revenues inevitably growing much more, the crucial factor is, will expenses consistently become less than the revenues? If I did not believe this is likely, I would never have bought a single share.

Once the company is consistently producing net gains (even as low as $500k a quarter), the deficit has only reached $11.1 million against probable revenues of $8 million a quarter and growing. So the deficit could be wiped out entirely in 5.5 years and probably much sooner.

I do not know of any Venture company that has no deficit at all, but once revenues consistently surpass total expenses, but I expect that is because companies with such awesome financials do not remain on the Venture for much longer.

I have great  respect for your perspective, so I thank you for the opportunity to clarify what I meant... and if I have misunderstood, I welcome someone else posting  their understanding.

WHOA I have caught a misreading. They are refering specifically to OPERATING CASH FLOW, not total revenues. The 6-month CF OPS from Q1+Q2 was just under $6 million, so with OPCF posiitive by $500k to $1million every quarter, it could vanish inside 3 years.

One of my fav companies is HEO (Q1 FS tomorrow should wow the market). Their CF is usually positive by a narrow margin on significant revenues ($50m in 2016), with a deficit holding at $33 million, and a SP of $2.25 up!

In 1-2 more quarters Convalo should be approaching similar revenues on lower costs, producing a larger Net Gain, and a deficit around $10 million.

BTW last quarter HEO had a market cap of $35 million and COH of $2.5 million, compared to Convalo last quarter at $32 million and over $12 million COH. Again, better then one of the best.

So what should the SP be then??


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Xiawen13 wrote: Hi Chase, you did express some reservation about that positive oprating cash flow thing last time I mentionned. Could you please explain me your understanding of that sentence from page 9 MD&A

"The Company has sufficient cash on hand to continue to support its expansion plans and meet its contractual obligations, and expects to generate positive operating cash flow in the second half of fiscal 2017."

All the important words are there: POSITIVE (which means cash in the bank increase) and OPERATING  (which mean the money will come from operation not from a loan as in Q2) and FISCAL 2017 (which means now)

what is it you suspect is not said here??

ChaseYourDream wrote: Strong post. Appreciated.. but I do not interpret guidence to be cash-flow positive in Q3-Q4 2017 (now!) menas the net loss for the year will vanish, only that it will start beig reduced. Now I may be wrong about what was stated, and/or wrong about what happens, in either case I will  be even more pleased.

 

 

 




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