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High River Gold Mines Ltd > From Russia with love!!
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Post by cjsell on Aug 15, 2009 3:19pm

From Russia with love!!

As I said, expect the unexpected!  For those who trimmed a bit, good call, you will be able to buy lower.  As many are trying to determine the "floor" I would think .30 is rock bottom because that is what Severstal paid and many retail investors have/will be scared off.

If one thought in "normal" terms most CEO's would have killed for the Q2 results (save the write down of Prognoz).  That being said, Severtstal does NOT want the shareprice to rise and will do anything and everything in its power to see the shareprice capped. I believe they have done great harm, not only to HRG but to Severstal itself.  It clearly demonstrates what a BUNCH OF SLEAZY operators they really are.  I do not believe for one second that PWC (the auditors) would let them pull that stunt and they will have to write the asset back up before year end.  Unless Severstal is going to abandon Prognoz, but then again there are too many oz in thw ground to simply walk away.

I asked the question to Mr. Poad via Dan the man, does HRG have recourse against the other 50% owner of Prognoz for the $17 million of shared exploration expense?  The answer is yes, HRG could pursue their business partner for the 17 million.  But I cannot find any info on Evergreen the owner of the other 50%. Who did the estimates?  When?  and mostly why does HRG still tout the "value" of the silver when quoting the gold equivalent in total reserves?  HRG is GROSSLY misleading investors. SLEAZY SLEAZY SLEAZY

Now turning to the CICA handbook here is the rule. 
EIC 174
Mining exploration costs

Considers the issues of (i) when exploration costs related to mining properties may be capitalized, and (ii) if exploration costs are initially capitalized, when should impairment be assessed to determine whether a write-down is required, and what conditions indicate impairment.

Applies to financial statements issued after March 27, 2009, except for entities that do not apply Section 3855 who may defer application to interim and annual financial statements relating to fiscal years beginning on or after January 1, 2010.


I would like to know exactly what the "impairment" is.  Clearly the BOD has exposed themselves to potential lawsuits for this childish accounting 101 fairytale.

So what can we do?  Why not take HRG to small claims court?  To be sure if HRG was sued by THOUSANDS of investors for less than 10K, that would freak out both Severstal and HRG.  Just a thought......

CJ

Comment by Tumbleweed67 on Aug 15, 2009 4:36pm
If I may throw my 2 cents in here. IMO the biggest drag on the SP is the dark cloud hanging over HRG by the name of Severstal, and what may be next. You guys have done a great job holding them off, but are slowly becoming their best friends. Even as a novice investor I was able to see the positives from their Q2 results (paticularily the one time write down), and their future potential, so I ...more  
Comment by cjsell on Aug 15, 2009 8:08pm
The game between the minority shareholders and Severstal has been going on for the past six months or so.  The pendulum  swung our way for the past three months culminating in the share price appreciation to .37  Now Severstal is fighting back and playing "hard ball" in causing a frivolous paper loss, any savvy investor can see what they are trying to do.  For the ...more  
Comment by Critical_Mass on Aug 15, 2009 9:35pm
How is the pendulum swinging against us?  Other then these one time accounting charges HRG reported recordearnings by far and very good cash flow. And let us not forget they likelyincurred not insignificant expenses in advisory services in trying to take HRGprivate as well.  For example 200k forthe bs independent valuation report from Paradigm and likely other unusualexpenses ...more  
Comment by miniminer on Aug 15, 2009 9:54pm
I agree. The cat's out of the bag. This thing will rocket higher Monday. Severastol  must realize this. They can't hold it back any more. With their majority ownership, they should ( will ) be very happy in any event  I'm sureMiniminer
Comment by uncoverer on Aug 15, 2009 10:50pm
Critical _Mass on further review, you are probably the closest to hit the mark here in your analysis and conclusions.Once you strip away the negative spin and superfluous / "fictitious"  issues that Severstal inserted, the key positive numbers on cash flow, debt reduction , real earnings per share, future tax credits etc are the items the shrewed  ...more  
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