L&L Energy, Inc. LLEN

L&L Ships 100 Rail Cars of Coal to Datang

[COO2002COO]

L&L Sales Manager’s  (Mrs. Siliva Zhang and Mr. James Xie)  and Datang International Power’s 
Deputy (Mrs. Lu), were one hand to oversee the first 100 rail cars of coal sent from L&L to Datang’s 
HoShan Power Plant.

https://www.llenergyinc.com/pr/Datang-Power.html

[Cool_Scirocco]

Fixed the link for you:   https://www.llenergyinc.com/pr/Datang-Power.html

[Cool_Scirocco]

Is the stockhouse page damaging links?   Maybe this one will work, pasted as text: https://www.llenergyinc.com/pr/Datang-Power.html

[COO2002COO]

OK now.  Thank you.

[chsharpei]

Coo: Thank you for making us aware of this shipment. It's unusual that the news didn't make it to the usual outlets, e.g: Yahoo finance, etd. Does anyone know how many tons are being shipped in those 100 cars?  And will the pmt for such be included in this qtrs ER? Sharpei

[Tjpsimone]

Depends on type of rail car being used.....coal car, open top, hopper... Standard is usually between 100-120 tons...I would use between 96-108 for guesstimates.....

[lutherpstr]

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[chsharpei]

Thanks, TJ.  Trying to remember what the contract is: 360,000T per year perhaps. ? So this delivery s/b about 10,000Tns. Sharpei

[chsharpei]

Super Sleuth...er, DC rather:  With your powers of investigation, what would you suppose is up....and why put it out on the website if they are in fact 'under the covers'. Sooo whassup? Tomorrow I am expecting $1.82, in which case that should be a bottom and the stock could make a run to the next resistance...or beyond if there is significant news. In the meantime I am watching CHOP

[lutherpstr]

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[chsharpei]

It would be a welcome mid-term announcement. S.

[COO2002COO]

Shipment quantity seems reasonable for a 360,000T contract as it takes less than 2 weeks to make a 10,000T plus coal delivery when an average 30,000T delivery is counted.   I think this recent update by LLEN is simply to let investors know they are right on schedule to fulfill the contract with Datang and that Datang seems satisfied with the progress LLEN is making so far. 

[barsolid]

Hey TJ.  If your comment about people not listening to you was partially directed at me for slightly disagreeing with you about the price drops for coal in Guizhou I hear you and want to say that I may have been sightly misunderstood,  While I do believe that Guizhou is isolated from much of the world /for the reasons I often state Obviously it is not on another planet.  I just want

[lutherpstr]

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[barsolid]

Sharpei DC, sorry for the fall in recent stock price.  this doesn't seem to be over.  I'm hoping for you. glta

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[chsharpei]

Thank you, DC. I too wish to say Bar, it is good to hear from you.  You once said $1.60 and here we are... Also, your insights as to the inner workings of geography, history and industrial mechanics in China are greatly appreciated. DC, my sentiments exactly.  I kinda regret not sticking with CHOP, but there is some 'pathological' tie I seem to have with this one. CHOP hit $2.33

[lutherpstr]

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[old-and-in-the-way]

DC & Sharpei, I also believe the co. is serious about a dual listing and they may be positioned sooner than we expect, say within 6months. What is encouraging is their focus outside of Guizhou, to the north. Finally. While waiting and positioning for the Great Consolidation, they finally are getting serious about other opportunities. A scenario where they do not need other partners in

[chsharpei]

Hi Old (I can relate except for the 'in the way' as there's no one around but the Sharpei and he's in my way!) You make some good points.  re: expansion to the north...I haven't seen Dickson's propensity for bank financing and although it's a possibility, perhaps not a probability.  I just don't get the feeling that he wants any involvement with a bank

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[old-and-in-the-way]

I view Yang as coming up with mining opportunities, but have been very impressed with Lee re creative financing. You are right in his aversion to bank financing...to date, Instead, he seems to have found "Chinese" solutions. The larger mines up north may require more standard bank financing. Dixon's focus has always been to structure accretive deals. Bank financing allows that. To me

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[old-and-in-the-way]

DC What we KNOW is that they are also frustrated with the "orphan" staus in the US and are looking to do something (HK??). And we can comfortably surmise that there are mines of 1-3M output, too small for the larger mines up north, that could be made available. I don't think they would announce this board meeting if they did not have some opportunities up north. The question is can

[chsharpei]

Old: We are all on pins and needles wondering what the purpose(s) of this trip might be; and the three biggest issues that we can see are 1) dual listing possibility, and 2) acquisitions in IM and 3) the oversight of assets so far from the current base of operations. One condition that probably caused some delay is the paucity of adequate coal rail lines out of the area. Additional lines are due

[old-and-in-the-way]

Sharpei, Agree completely. What has delayed the wholesale business is this paucity of rail infrastructure. For example capacity for freight seems to be 30 cars, not 100 they need to consistently supply the utilities. "They are working on it" and are making progress, whatever that means. Similarly, the washing facility is coming along. When does it all come together??? At least it IS

[brotherM1]

"What has delayed the wholesale business is this paucity of rail infrastructure. For example capacity for freight seems to be 30 cars, not 100 they need to consistently supply the utilities."  Old was this something that was perhpas discussed at the last conference call?

[old-and-in-the-way]

M1, In a general way. As a number of us here, I do try and communicate directly with the co. No "inside" data is expected, or desired, but it is a way to have a better sense of where things are at. By no means does that make anyone here an expert, but it does ease concerns....... a bit. We are all very frustrated at the pace of aggrandizement.

[lutherpstr]

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