Post by
Wangotango67 on Jan 03, 2023 11:41pm
HOW SHOULD WE MANAGE SALTS AS FUELS ?
ELECTRIC CARS
Mine salts with much effort
Refine salts with much effort for purity
Build mega giga factories
Then make batteries
Tap electrical grid = places strain on grid
Buildout charge stations
Build out recycling facilities
= nightmare
ELECTRIC / HYDROGEN CARS
Same huge efforts as above - with the added hydrogen fuel cell that only charges the - battery.
Search out - HESLA - Norwegian company modified a tesla - hydrogen fuel cel lcharges battery.
They... are just to ofocused on the battery and electrical grid.
Many industries overlap - from mining costs - to tapping an electrical grid to charge a battery, with extreme cosrts associated at eachphase = creating many negatives.
DIRECT PRODUCTION HYDROGEN CARS -
No expensive hydrogen storage fuel station
Simply use the hydrogen fuel cell and produce hydrogen on demand
with small storage tank for reserves.
Salts are not placed into dangerous batteries, rather,
into water fuel cells used with electrolysis to split the water with in, fuel cell cylenders.
No batteries
No costly cold hydrogen
HYDROGEN ON DEMAND FUEL CELL.
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INFASTRUCTURE
Same gas stations can now convert to - depots - for new + expended fuel cell cylenders.
Same gas stations are already in place.
No needed infastructure.
Same car 12v battery that already powerS - radio, heat etc...
is also used to POWER THE FUEL CELL split water to make fuel.
Exisiting car manufacturers could use same - engines.
No new electric motor factories needed.
Using a fuel cell to make direct - hydrogen...
is by far the best solution.
It's this fixation of ..... " must have battery, must use electricity "
that's become the hurdle.
A hurdle that's morphed into, if we don't have enough electricty, then,
simply pull the cars from the road to save the electrical grid from overload.
Not the best solution now is it....
Govt's want ot make money, not reduce the vehicles in which provide the money.
The issue with electric cars...
Many politicians were not provided with all options.
I would make that bet and say... some pointed politicians to,
the cost and expense of - hydrogen filling stations - how costly it was ot keep the hydrogen cold - resulting in, $16/L hydrogen.
Had another pointed out - making hydrogen on demand - SOLVES ALL THE PROBLEMS.
NO NEW ENGINES NEEDED - NO BATTERY PLANTS NEEDED NO RECYCLING BATT PLANTS
If they were pitched small fuel cells with a caveot of, Gov't owned fuel cell leases - and showed how much more money could be made - they would've most likely ran the hydrogen route.
It's exactly what happens when old tech, is pitched, and when one dismisses new tech, or is miss informed, or has to also incorporate - electricity and batteries - because one has control over the electricity - lol - yet, the very owning of the power grid and the pitch for new ev cars doesn't quite add up when one is told they won't be able to own a car....
Twisted economics..lol
Using salts...
= small add on fuel cells with existing engines ( eliminates - battery plants and recycling plants )
= expedites the green transition
= Gov'ts owned the fuel cell license
= big profits
WHO SHOULD BACK HYDROGEN FUEL ?
There's a small window of opportunity - wink.
They can't phase out the petro till 2030 - 2025 - 2050
Which means,... those who sel lthe petro are still raking it in.
Asking them to invest in - hydrogen salt fuels would be - SMART.
Wanna see fuel companies get jelous fast ?
lol
Great way to encourage a BIG fuel company to invest in salt fuels, just go to next best person...
The independents that sell the fuels...
1 - Most Gas Stations are Owned Independently
In fact, according to a study by NACS, only 0.4% of gas stations in America are owned by the top five oil companies. The remainder is owned and operated independently. Over 60% are owned by an individual or family with a single gas station or convenience store
Fuel cell tech = already exists.
Yet... no one is really focusing on the - various kinds of salt fuels -
Such as, Mag power vs standard potassium or saline power.
Consumers are attracted to branding.
Saline - ( bronze )
Potassium ( silver )
Magnesium ( Gold )
Let's ask... how many larger gas station owners - own several hundred stations ?
That's the company one would ask to back a hydrogen salt fuel -
WHY ?
For fear they're being put out of business - if... petro is on it's way out.
They'd want to profit selling the salt fuel cylenders - keep thier chain fuel stations open..
FUEL CYLENDERS
Designing a sealed fuel cell cylender with special mixture of say, alcohol to prevent fuel form freezing, would regulate the industry.
Fuel Cell is needed
Salt Fuel is needed.
I'm surprized no one has yet to tap the shoulder of a few large INDEPENDENT petro staions.
And say.... this is how i see the future - keeping the stations up and open using - hydrogen fuel cells. .
WHY CRUSH AN EXISITING SUCCESS ?
Would be a helluva world without fuel stations.
No restrooms, no snacks, no rest pit stops, no oil for engines or windshield washer fluids
and all the other goodies a fuel store offers - all perfectly positioned for ideal fuel ups.
If a junior owned a salt deposit - played thier cards right -
They'd never sell the salts rather....
They design a salt fuel and lease the fuel - recouping the expended salts to reload into new
cylenders - far more profitable in residuals... or, perhaps Gov't buys the salt deposits, and owns all.
Cheers.....