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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Kontrol Technologies Corp N.KNR

Alternate Symbol(s):  KNRLF

Kontrol Technologies Corp. is a provider of energy management, continuous air quality and emission solutions to commercial and industrial consumers. It delivers building intelligence through the Internet of things (IoT), software and cloud technology as well as project integration. Its smart technology is deployed to customers through a cloud-based interface accessible on desktops and mobile... see more

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Kontrol Technologies Corp > Share Price to Earnings
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Post by Steve1CPA on Nov 20, 2020 1:34pm

Share Price to Earnings

I did some very high level calculations on share price to earnings taking into account that KNR is currently operating at a loss. I used a net profit per earnings of $500 and $1,000 per unit to take into consideration manufacturing, sales, marketing, shipping, COGS, etc. I used a P/E ratio of 10 which indicates a higher risk venture. Here are the results: Sale of Units for Share Price $2.50 Net Profit per Unit $500 Shares issued 35,000,000 Price per share $2.50 P/E ratio 10 Share price factor 0.25 Annual profit before EBITDA $8,750,000 KNR Current Projected Annual Loss -$5,000,000 Net annual revenue needed before EBITDA to earn for share price $13,750,000 Net profit per unit $500 Annual # of units sold 27,500 Months of year 12 Monthly # of units needed to sell to make share price 2,292 Sale of Units for Share Price $4.00 Net Profit per Unit $500 Shares issued 35,000,000 Price per share $4.00 P/E ratio 10 Share price factor 0.4 Annual profit before EBITDA $14,000,000 KNR Current Projected Annual Loss -$5,000,000 Net annual revenue needed before EBITDA to earn for share price $19,000,000 Net profit per unit $500 Annual # of units sold 38,000 Months of year 12 Monthly # of units needed to sell to make share price 3,167 Sale of Units for Share Price $2.50 Net Profit per Unit $1,000 Shares issued 35,000,000 Price per share $2.50 P/E ratio 10 Share price factor 0.25 Annual profit before EBITDA $8,750,000 KNR Current Projected Annual Loss -$5,000,000 Net annual revenue needed before EBITDA to earn for share price $13,750,000 Net profit per unit $1,000 Annual # of units sold 13,750 Months of year 12 Monthly # of units needed to sell to make share price 1,146 Sale of Units for Share Price $4.00 Net Profit per Unit $1,000 Shares issued 35,000,000 Price per share $4.00 P/E ratio 10 Share price factor 0.4 Annual profit before EBITDA $14,000,000 KNR Current Projected Annual Loss -$5,000,000 Net annual revenue needed before EBITDA to earn for share price $19,000,000 Net profit per unit $1,000 Annual # of units sold 19,000 Months of year 12 Monthly # of units needed to sell to make share price 1,583
Comment by MRB403 on Nov 20, 2020 2:45pm
Bro, Can we get that in English? I know you are trying to make a great point. Thanks.
Comment by BCdude on Nov 20, 2020 2:56pm
Hard to decipher what you're saying, as I'm assuming this info was in a chart? What I get from this is that if the net profit per unit for biocloud is $500, KNR would need to sell 38,000 units to justify a share price of $4.00/share, and if net profit is $1,000 per unit of biocloud it would require sales of 19,000 units to justify a $4.00 share price. Am I right?
Comment by Macpherson99 on Nov 20, 2020 2:59pm
I think that this Same Principle was elucidated by Professor Irwin Corey.
Comment by HTNYC1 on Nov 20, 2020 3:25pm
Haha. I was thinking the same about it being in a chart. I was also thinking that if they are only making 4% net margin ($500 per unit) on a one of a kind tech that is patent pending then we should all go home.
Comment by BCdude on Nov 20, 2020 6:21pm
I think at the start for sure the margins will be better than 4%. I would say 10% minimum, even for large orders, and probably more than that. I'll be very interested to see what the margins are, though we probably won't know for at least 3-6 months.
Comment by HTNYC1 on Nov 20, 2020 7:12pm
I work in this field so can try and shed some light. New tech margins are at a minimum in the 30s and into the 40s and 50s for scarce and unique patented tech. Paul has stated before that it is a strong margin product. They may give some of that away with early order and bulk discounts but it isn't going below 20-25%. Add install and consulting fees for hardware and data setup etc and you won& ...more  
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