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Novus Energy Inc > IR on holidays until jan 9th
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Post by largeinvest on Jan 04, 2013 3:31pm

IR on holidays until jan 9th

tried to call about a production update...no luck.  I supposed I could bother the CFO, but I'm sure he has more important things to do like crunching our buyout numbers :-)
Comment by Shlinker_ on Jan 04, 2013 5:05pm
...a 33% chance of buyout, 33% chance of merger, and 33% chance of status quo. imho. Cheers.
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 04, 2013 5:14pm
If we were to be ultra conservative in a buyout or merger price, what value would that be, I got $1.35.  A modest buyout around $1.50, and a knock my socks off buyout at $1.70
Comment by luckythor on Jan 04, 2013 6:29pm
Firstly, if the IR dept. is on holidays till Jan 9th, I do not believe anything will happen til their return. Secondly, largeinvest as much as I appreciate your numbers, I believe they are low and here is my logic. Without using formulas, Teine Energy paid $180 million for Long Run (1800boed) if NVS production is 4200boed as of Dec 31st that takeover formula would bring $420 million which is ...more  
Comment by guibou on Jan 05, 2013 12:28am
Shlinker,   I agree with you on that scenario...   Good luck and a Happy New Year to you and all the NVS shareholders.   Jean-Paul    
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 05, 2013 7:22pm
I would love for that secnario.  Altough if we assume corporations are taxed a total of 25%, we can't give full value to those tax pools.     
Comment by bobshere on Jan 05, 2013 8:22pm
I haven't seen very many takeovers giving a 75% premium. I hope you are right tho. I am thinking 1.30-1.40 if we are lucky.>
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 06, 2013 5:22pm
I would say if you picture $1.35, your not going to be disappointed in the outcome.  Its better to be ultraconservative in your in calculations then be upset and dissapointed in the outcome. 
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 07, 2013 3:59am
Seems IR did get back to me, despite being on vacation.  Looks like its a wait and see now. 
Comment by luckythor on Jan 07, 2013 12:28pm
I agree that we can not give full value to the tax pool, but 25% of $250K does cover the debt.
Comment by Feruk on Jan 07, 2013 6:18pm
I'd be very happy with $1.50+, but I don't even think $1.35 is realistic. My price guess is $1.25 which is a 40% premium for $0.90 at time of announcement, the number we should be looking at. The difference from $0.90 to today's $1.06 is largely already part of the pricing in of a potential sale. My biggest fear is a bad merger deal (see: Vero or Westfire), or no deal, at which point I ...more  
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 08, 2013 1:02pm
There is no reason why Teine wouldn't bid for our viking assets at roughly the same price they paid for the Long run assets, a slight discount offered for the more gassy production.  $1.25 is way to low compared to the recent transactions we can compare NVS to.  https://www.fairfieldsuntimes.com/articles/2012/12/18/business/doc50d0b4b37251e665797921.txt
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 08, 2013 1:16pm
To get to $1.25, your saying they would only sell for $75k per flowing?  Doesn't make any sense.    $75k  x 4200=315 million -65 million debt add $18 million option proceeds $268 million 212 million shares out =$1.26 Why would they sell for $75 per flowing when the most recent transaction went for $95k.  Granted that transaction was 95% oil and we are only 85% oil, but ...more  
Comment by largeinvest on Jan 08, 2013 1:24pm
The good news about Teine bidding, is that it would be an all cash offer as they are a private comany.  We don't have to worry about the aquiring company shares plunging.  I stick by my projections of $1.35 min if its a cash offer, and if its a share offer they would need at least $1.50 to account for the declines in the aquiring companies stock.    But lets say there is no ...more  
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