Post by
mill44 on Jan 26, 2016 2:17pm
I find it strange
that most people here see me as the big bear, the most negative after Cudjo. Have you thought about something? My idea is based on the fact that Robert finds the project desirable. Ekim and Kidlapik are permabulls based on fundamentals. But what if I am wrong? What happens if with this financing we realize that Robert might not want this as badly as I thought? Everyone asks the same thing, who do you think is right, the bears or Robert? Who knows more, Cudjo or Robert? But what happens with Ekim's numbers or Kidlapik's faith if I am wrong? If I am wrong then Ekim and Kidlapik might not be in the same camp with Robert anymore.
Everyone invested in PGD should pray that I am right or this will be shelved until the next peak in the commodities bull cycle, because, as Cudjo said, PGD will not have any money for future work.
Comment by
mill44 on Jan 26, 2016 2:25pm
So you see, I am not a bear. I still believe that there is interest in the project, maybe too much interest. But for now, Robert is the only one interested. If he gives up then the fat lady has sung.
Comment by
myview1 on Jan 26, 2016 2:27pm
Yes mill, PGD will not have any funds to go forward without a partner, whoever that may be. Or a buyout? Or there is a lot more going on that we can only guess at.
Comment by
mill44 on Jan 26, 2016 2:41pm
People look at Robert as Eric's brother and see no difference. Robert is actually the partner replacing DeBeers. Eric chose him in favor of DeBeers. His continuous support is crucial to the project and you need that support to show at the closing.
Comment by
shneps on Jan 26, 2016 2:56pm
You are absolutely right Mill. I can't say, and I believe I say for many more, there are a lot of frayed nerves this week and it starting too leak at the seams. The rights offering stated that when enquired (at the time) directors intentions were to exercise. This does not mean they have to but if they don't, oh my. Cudjo and his shorts are good. Retail's doomed.
Comment by
Kodiboy on Jan 27, 2016 12:08pm
Mill, I know you are a logical guy, but just because you display good logic does not mean you are right or what you say is going to come true. I respect your opinion, I don't respect your motives.
Comment by
mill44 on Jan 27, 2016 12:16pm
That's why it's a theory until it's proven. You have no idea about my motives, how can you judge them?
Comment by
Kodiboy on Jan 27, 2016 12:18pm
Ok Mill, here is a chance to put your money where your mouth is. Here is a wager: if the Freidlands do not pick up the shares, I will never post here again, if the Freidlands do pick up the shares, you will never post here again. Will you take that bet?
Comment by
mill44 on Jan 27, 2016 12:25pm
where is the wager or the money in that? And why would I go against myself? I always said that they had every intention to pick the shares up. I would have to be a complete idiot to be here if I thought that they would not exercise. I just posted about my theory that without them PGD is done.
Comment by
Kodiboy on Jan 27, 2016 12:39pm
A wager does not have to include a monetary amount to be considered one. So your opinion is to cover both scenarios in what the Freidlands may do, correct? So not really an opinion, just a potential outcome if the do or don't? So you refuse the bet because you believe they will excersise? That is what you are saying, correct?
Comment by
ekim on Jan 27, 2016 12:47pm
No matter what anyone says...Robert is the one with big $$'s.I I know Eric would have padded his wealth on the last PGM takeout...so is no slouch either. I could see a scenario where both full exercise..but maybe Robert only takes up the additional shares available. Findout in a couple of days. LONG...PGD EKIM
Comment by
shneps on Jan 27, 2016 1:25pm
Kodiboy, I thought you were off to" Waki Quaki" for two weeks and not to be heard from. Is the pull of this board actually stronger than a pineapple full of Mai Tai's? I'll leave you all behind tomorrow when we skidoo over to the island for a few days. With no ill feeling about what's happening here, what's done is done now. Aloha!
Comment by
Kodiboy on Jan 27, 2016 1:29pm
I am but i guess it doesn't matter where you are, you like to stir the Mill pot, at least I do! but the pool is calling my name....so bra, later...