RE:Walter Aduviri had a meeting with Marco Aranayes, as I heard they wanted to discuss how to make mobile phones and cars without using commodities like copper, gold, lithium, bauxite, gallium, etc. apparently, it was not easy and the meeting was closed on an undecided level and they drove home in their car made the old way, with commodities. Boy o boy, digingdeep, so you work for Tierra and Libertad, interesting to know.