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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Sandstorm Metals & Energy Ltd STTYF

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Sandstorm Metals & Energy Ltd > We're in a sweet spot
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Post by elmothefearless on Nov 27, 2012 5:45pm

We're in a sweet spot

I'd argue that SND is in a sweet spot today with relatively low commodity prices.  Met coal, copper, natural gas, are all off their highs.  Further, capital is tight.  All of these things are great for Sandstorm, maybe not from a cash flow perspective, but definitely from a deal making perspective.

 

With limited capital available, more companies will be reliant upon alternative sources of financing (i.e. SND). Not only does this increase the potential pool of eligible deals, it also means we are getting deals done with some measure of downside protection (assuming commodity prices are "low" relative to ~2 or ~4 years ago).

 

Commodities are cyclical - always have been, always will.  If our hypothesis is indeed accurate that we are at a "low" period in the cycle (met coal and natural gas are off their highs by > 50%, iron ore is down over 60%, etc.), a recovery in pricing would likely act as a catalyst for significant apprecition in the share price.

 

Previously I assumed that we would cut a cheque for $15 million to SSL for our palladium stream.  Doesn't seem like this is going to happen anymore.  Either SND will draw a demand loan from a bank for $15 million in a years time (once we have cash flow from Donner of $15 million, likely we could obtain a bank loan of $30 - $40 million), or we'll issue shares equivalent to $15 million.  That leaves $40 million in the bank, less $7 million for the NDX deal, less $7 million to TBD, less $9 million to Donner, or about $17 million in the bank.  

 

That is enough for 1 more deal.

 

Anyway... I have some more interesting information, a friend called NDX and spoke with the new CEO... will post later tonight when I am home from work. 

 

Cheers.

Comment by elmothefearless on Nov 28, 2012 12:20am
Ok, update on NDX:   - the private placement was done but contingent upon Romney winning the election, when Romney did not win the guys taking the placement down retracted and now they are marketing the deal again, no word on how much additional capital they are looking for   - Roling believes that NDX is "foolishly undervalued"   - Roling believes that NDX has high ...more  
Comment by bob4977 on Nov 28, 2012 11:05am
Elmo, Your ratings may have more to do with who and where you have been tickling as opposed to the quality of your posts. You might have to get a new name to be taken seriously. Bob
Comment by Spacecat on Nov 28, 2012 12:18pm
I always appreciate an Elmo post, keep em coming. 
Comment by doomz78 on Nov 28, 2012 1:24pm
I enjoy your posts.  Sometimes I am rude to people...   but I do apreciate all the good information here.  This is one of my staple information sources.  Thanks Elmo. 
Comment by _Highlander_ on Nov 28, 2012 3:39pm
I want to believe this but why would the deal fall through on Romney, NDX is all met coal and the met coal is not affected by the EPA standards that Obama is enforcing, this meant to reduce the carbon footprint of thermal coal plants, and has nothing to do with steal production you'd think the people involved would know that, in other words Romney or Obama have no control over global steel ...more  
Comment by elmothefearless on Nov 28, 2012 9:20pm
Highlander, right on all counts, and you made the same comments I did when I first chatted with my friend re: his call with Roling.  Before my friend made the call, we'd be chatting about NDX and he'd keep quoting me thermal coal prices, and I kept telling him, those don't matter, we have met coal, and it's used for manufacturing steel.  Well, according to Roling, there ...more  
Comment by _Highlander_ on Nov 29, 2012 12:35pm
thanks, and i appreciate you shareing your DD.
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