RE:RE:RE:technicals@ Condor. I think you mean what you say and therefore are entitled to an answer. I do not dispute that it may be in a fair range to make decent money. In fact I started buying at $ 3.84 but I also continued to buy more even after it passed the $30.00 mark, still I'm ahead and I'm very satisfied with my return. However, this has nothing to do with the facts that lead me to believe that it is manipulated, much less then it used to be and possibly limited to investors who now have to cover and do the best in a given situation. There are many different facts that indicate manipulation but the clearest is one that I challenged you and everybody else to find a different explanation than mine is when the shares are trading lets say at $ 15.00 with relatively high volume (sometimes 20,000) of participating investors on both sides of the $15 when out of the blue transaction of little volume cause it to drop to let's say $14.00 normally the stock recovers but after this has been repated three or four times and the price could be under $14.00 panic sets in at which time they either start buying or continue to bring it down further. I could continue to explain many more phenomenas that indicate manipulation but since nobody bothered to find an other explanation then mine for this one AND the fact that explanations of this kind give manipulators more ideas, I never did. If I explained it in the past it is because if investors would understand this game they would not panic and as i said before; at this moment the game would not work anymore. A reason why I think that AVO should trade at a higher price then the present P/E is because as an Inustrial Engineer who helped many Companies to become profitable or more profitable I must admit that this company keeps surprising me with doing better then all the others even after I helped them.