RE:RE:RE:High Expectations Now That AF is Focused on Stock PriceAs you said Clarence; no honest reason at all. Unfortunately we have seen what dishonest people can do. As long there are people who prefer to stick their head into the sand instead of facing reality they will be successful and we have to see this reality too. By the way; I was in contact with CIBC; they never denied manipulation but tried to put all the blame on Hedge -funds. I do not know what Woods - Gundy and investors Edge played but following their trading I,m very suspicious. However, for those who are not rich enough to deal directly with " Turtle Creek" can do so with CIBC. (Winston8 informed us that they now have over 13% invested in Avigilon which for me is the best proof that they know what they are doing.)