Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Think about it...

[Noredneck]

You seriously think people that are multi-billionaire will wait in line at the airport, lose their luggages and  miss their flight... come on... you seriously think they will get poor in the next decade.... they are now waiting in line to buy a Global 7500!

[bago]

What's getting missed here is it's not  about the great planes or how many get sold or backlog. The issue is magins and how much FCF they can generate in order to translate in shareholder returns. It comes down to making money, that's all. 

[clubhouse19]

 Looks like they are making back enough to tackle the debt.

[Micmar]

Yes, 400 millions last year and 350 millions this year.... not bad. 

[bago]

Market is saying that's not enough for now. At this rate they will need refinancing and that's not guaranteed and at higher interest rates. Debt payments have to speed up if possible and that's the issue. Let's see what they show this quarter.

[clubhouse19]

Maybe you could explain at what level they will need refinancing with the debt structure and timing as it is or are you just throwing that comment out without anything to back it up.? They sat they are ok abd you say not..on what basis?

[bago]

I am not saying they are not okay, and Micmar posted 750 million in 2 years not bad but as you see how it's trading the market is saying that is a slow pace when you have6.5 billion or whatever they are sitting at now. Being okay and shareholder returns are two different things. My basis is on FCF available to pay down debt and we will know those  numbers as they come quarter by quarter

[Micmar]

Sorry my mistake in march 2022 400 millions and now 359 millions really not bad.      

[raphaelle2]

Hey Bago stop mudding the water on the debt. This question of the long term debt was discussed at length during the last conf call. Post restructuring they are targetting 3-3.5 B$. Which so far looks conservative ( in fact they are running ahead) IMO large conservative inst investors will wait Q1 2023 before taking positions. They will want to get confirmation of the production increase ( 15-20

[BBDB859]

Hey Bago. The Bomber's next refinancing is in Dec 2024. The Dec 2024 Note was for $1B. They brought it down to $800M this year in Feb/2022. Just now they also threw another $290M = $500M to renew. The Bomber has paid $5B of LTD since Jan. of 2021. The LTD before Jan./2021 was $11B. Debt is getting cheaper from Bond Holders, for Bombardier as the company is paying Debt down. So the interest

[bago]

Even "i know this" lol. You just sound desperate. One minute it's the family and then moaning and whining about shorts even though you state they lost their ability to short and so on and so on. You answer all the questions as if you are giving out facts lol. The permabulls have  been on the wrong side and continue to paint a rosy picture no matter what. .77 think about it. You

[BBDB859]

Look at my post again & see what it is about. It's giving you the facts that you lack on the LTD. You do this every time I read your posts here. Are you brain dead? I'm helping you, with the wrong assumptions u are making on the LTD and you always ask the wrong people on this Board about the LTD. Get it through your thick skull. The LTD is under control. I've given u  the

[bago]

Another long winded post about nothing lol. You have thrown me on ignore forever, forever lol. Who cares?? You are a bellyacher because the bomber took you to the cleaners many times in the past. I am a shorter? lol. Man you are dellusional and make up stories like the rest of your buddies. You guys aren't really willing to ignore anyone as you want to defend the bomber on any negative posts

[BBDB859]

Are you as dumb as you sound there Bago.  I'm not talking about ignoring you on my last post. I'm talking about your Imbecile supporter Annick, who thinks the Bomber will go under. As for you. I told you that all people here are tired answering your stupid, uneducated, wrongful questions and assumtions about the Bomber Finances. Do some math & reading. It's called DD. 

[bago]

You quoted me lol I don@t see Annick in any of the quotes. Now who is dumb? All of you@ permabulls here call others dumb when you guys have alreay proven your poor choices and assessments here.You have corrected nothing and in fact give bs numbers. At the current numbers they@ are 10 years+ to pay the debt. I know squat and sold out at 1.4@s while you are holding at higher prices at .77 lol. You

[bago]

Btw you claim they will get refinancing at lower interest rates? Dream on! Not sure where you come up with half the goofy stuff you say and then have the nerve to say you correct others lol.

[balmusette]

Business jets charter companies will wait in line as well.