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BCE Inc. is a Canada-based communications company. The Company provides wireless and fiber networks. The Company operates through one segment: Bell Communication and Technology Services (Bell CTS). Bell CTS segment provides a range of communication products and services to consumers, businesses and government customers across Canada. Its wireless products and services include mobile data and voice plans and devices and are available nationally. Its wireline products and services comprise data (including Internet access, Internet protocol television (IPTV), cloud-based services and business solutions), voice, and other communication services and products, which are available to its residential, small and medium-sized businesses and large enterprises customers primarily in Ontario, Quebec, the Atlantic provinces and Manitoba. This segment includes its wholesale business, which buys and sells local telephone, long-distance, data, and other services from or to resellers and other carriers.


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Comment by SargeXon Feb 11, 2024 11:39am
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RE:RE:RE:dividend stocks

RE:RE:RE:dividend stocksHey Karl

Great to hear from you. I hope all is going well for you. Things are top-shelf out this way..

All the stock prices including VDY are the actual prices.

I saw Dean's post about the difference in yield and that is a most excellent point. I checked a few years and the difference between the average yield of the 12 stocks and VDY seems to average around 1.4% or so. Over the 6 year period from 2018, that would add 8.4% to the 12 stock average and close the gap from 2.8% to 11.2% (vs the VDY of 19.54%). The 10 year from 2014 would add 14% and make the total return of the 12 stock 47.32% (vs the VDY of 37.55%). 

When interest rates were abnormally low from 2008-2021, diivdend stocks did generally outperform. Getting back to a more nomral rate has meant that the dividend stocks needed to be re-valued. I think it's been over-done at this point but the rates are not going to go back to those low rates (in our lifetimes) so I doubt we will see what we've experienced. 

Being a total return investor is way more difficult than just being an income investor as there's so many things to consider and a total return investor has to/should be watching and evaluating at all times. I'm certainly happy to have a stress free portfolio.

Good luck with it all and take care
  Sarge

Karl63 wrote: Hello Sarge, hope you are well, we haven't spoken in a while.

It's hard to believe that VDY has a 19.54% increase since 2018 vs the average of your portfolio which is just 2.8%.  VDY is a high dividend Canadian fund; I know that both you and I are dividend investors, as are many others; our portfolios are of necessity very similar to VDY.  There is, after all, only a limited choice of higher dividend blue chip stocks available in Canada.  Perhaps VDY includes dividends in their calculations while the individual stocks do not?

I'm somewhat frustrated with the lack of performance in our Canadian markets, especially when considering what's happened with the S&P 500 in the US.  Depending on the size of a portfolio, some could be content with dividend income only, but most still cannot ignore the returns provided by a mix of dividend and growth income.  We in Canada have higher dividend rates than in the US, but they have growth, which for us can often seem non-existent in Canada.  Had I the opportunity to do it again, I'd have invested 40% of my monies in a simple S&P 500 ETF; that and VDY could provide the best of both worlds.  As it is, I can't see going into the S&P when every day it seems to be reaching new heights; I'll wait for a correction.  


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