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Big Banc Split Corp > U.S. shale's message for OPEC: above $40, we are coming back
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Post by nexthink on Mar 01, 2016 1:49am

U.S. shale's message for OPEC: above $40, we are coming back

By Devika Krishna Kumar

 

NEW YORK, Feb 29 (Reuters) - For leading U.S. shale oil producers, $40 is the new $70.

Less than a year ago major shale firms were saying they needed oil above $60 a barrel to produce more; now some say they will settle for far less in deciding whether to crank up output after the worst oil price crash in a generation.

Their latest comments highlight the industry's remarkable resilience, but also serve as a warning to rivals and traders: a retreat in U.S. oil production that would help ease global oversupply and let prices recover may prove shorter than some may have expected.

Continental Resources Inc, led by billionaire wildcatter Harold Hamm, is prepared to increase capital spending if U.S. crude reaches the low- to mid-$40s range, allowing it to boost 2017 production by more than 10 percent, chief financial official John Hart said last week.

Rival Whiting Petroleum Corp, the biggest producer in North Dakota's Bakken formation, will stop fracking new wells by the end of March, but would "consider completing some of these wells" if oil reached $40 to $45 a barrel, Chairman and CEO Jim Volker told analysts. Less than a year ago, when the company was still in spending mode, Volker said it might deploy more rigs if U.S. crude hit $70.

While the comments were couched with caution, they serve as a reminder of how a dramatic decline in costs and rapid efficiency gains have turned U.S. shale, initially seen by rivals as a marginal, high cost sector, into a major player - and a thorn in the side of big OPEC producers.

Nimble shale drillers are now helping mitigate the nearly 70-percent slide crude price rout by cutting back output, but may also limit any rally by quickly turning up the spigots once prices start recovering from current levels just above $30.

The threat of a shale rebound is "putting a cap on oil prices," said John Kilduff, partner at Again Capital LLC. "If there's some bullish outlook for demand or the economy, they will try to get ahead of the curve and increase production even sooner."

Some producers have already began hedging future production, with prices for 2017 oil trading at near $45 a barrel, which could put a floor under any future production cuts.

GLOBAL AMBITIONS

While the worst oil downturn since the 1980s sounds the death knell for scores of debt-laden shale producers, it has also hastened the decline in costs of hydraulic fracturing and improvements of the still-developing technology.

For example, Hess Corp., which pumps one of every 15 barrels of North Dakota crude, cut the cost of a new Bakken oil well by 28 percent last year.

What once helped fatten margins is now key to survival in what Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi described last week as the "harsh" reality of a global market in which the Organization of Oil Exporting Countries is no longer willing to curb its supplies to bolster prices.

While Deloitte auditing and consulting warns that a third of U.S. oil producers may face bankruptcy, leading shale producers say their ambitions go beyond just outrunning domestic rivals.

"It's no longer enough to be the low cost producer in U.S. horizontal shale," Bill Thomas, chairman of EOG Resources Inc , said on Friday. "EOG's goal is to be competitive, low-cost oil producer in the global market."

Thomas did not say what price would spur EOG to boost output this year, but said it had a "premium inventory" of 3,200 well locations that can yield returns of 30 percent or more with oil at $40.

Apache Corp, forecasts its output will drop by as much as 11 percent this year, but said it would probably manage to match 2015 North American production if oil averaged $45 this year.

One reason shale producers can be so fleet-footed is the record backlog of wells that have already been drilled but wait to get fractured to keep oil trapped in shale rocks flowing.

There were 945 such wells in North Dakota, birthplace of the U.S. shale boom in December, compared to 585 in mid-2014, when prices peaked, according to the latest available data from the Department of Mineral Resources. Their numbers are growing as firms like Whiting keep drilling, but hold off with fracking.

Some warn that fracking the uncompleted wells can offer only a short-term supply boost and a sustained increase would require costly drilling of new wells and therefore higher prices.

"It's going to take a move up to $55 before we see anyone plan new production," says Carl Larry, director of business development for oil and gas at Frost & Sullivan.

To be sure, it is far from certain whether oil prices will even reach $40 any time soon. Morgan Stanley and ANZ expect average prices in the low $30s for the full year.

Some analysts also warn resuming drilling quickly may prove hard after firms laid off thousands of workers and idled more than three-quarters of their rigs since late 2014.

In fact, John Hess, chief executive of Hess Corp last week took issue with labeling U.S. shale oil as a "swing producer." Hess told Reuters in an interview that U.S. shale firms should be rather considered as "short-cycle" producers, which might need up to a year to stop or restart production.

And even scarred veterans of past boom-bust oil cycles are not sure what will happen once prices start to recover - during the last big upswing a decade ago, shale oil did not even exist.

"We are a little concerned that this time there is one dynamic we've never had previously," said Darrell Hollek, vice president of U.S. onshore at Anadarko Petroleum Corp.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-shales-message-opec-above-060001206.html
Comment by braincloud on Mar 01, 2016 9:35am
Continental , Whiting arguably two of the worst oil and gas companies on earth. It's no wonder they are keen to talk up their ability to crank up production. They need to , and how!!! Whiting has $6.6 billion L/T debt with a market cap of $790 million. Continental $10.25 billion L/T debt with a market cap of $8.4 billion.
Comment by mydogchach on Mar 01, 2016 11:49pm
Braindead, I generally ignore you - but for some reason, this latest idiotic post - that serves no useful purpose other than  to provide you yet another opportunity to satisy your addiction to posting on the Bankers Bullboard, moves me to respond - I can't take it anymore. (and gosh, please don't put me on ignore)    Brainclown - everyone knows you're a pompous blowhard  ...more  
Comment by braincloud on Mar 02, 2016 9:07am
Listen MYDOGSHEiT, if oil prices stay low Whiting will die. Have you looked at their balance sheet??? Each to his own devices. You pick your own poison because that's what makes a market. As for my posting, I do it for my own amusement. If you find value in the BNK Pete post then good for you! Yes you are correct If oil goes up then the likes of Whiting will go up. IF is a little word with a ...more  
Comment by cashtango00 on Mar 02, 2016 9:28am
Braindead's logic makes no sense.  If the price of oil stays this low then yes, the major shale players will eventually die, along with a lot of other oil plays.  Saying that, if oil stays this low indefinately, BNK will die too.  They too are bleeding here and we don't even have clarity on how much more the Albanians want to scalp.  I love the attitude if Braincloud ...more  
Comment by lefmike on Mar 02, 2016 10:11am
Something I always wondered about.  Thiw fool, CASHTANGO00.... Why the double zero's?  because like his other aliASS, DAdave   he needs to change his aliASS's to ensure one person reads his garbage before they also put the PUTZ on ignore.....  What a freaking waste of air!  Clowns make more sense,  a village fool has more intelect and your local nuthouse is ...more  
Comment by cashtango00 on Mar 02, 2016 10:19am
Yes lefmike, I would certainly take your great advice.....because you have done so well in calling this stock in the past....
Comment by braincloud on Mar 02, 2016 10:27am
Further to DOGSHEIT'S comment about Whiting. This is just a frame of reference when you are trying to pick a horse to win should oil take a turn up or down from here. Companies like WLL have a huge amount of debt, as do several high profile shale players, that said all is well IF oil moves up sooner than later. If NOT sooner then the likes of WLL could breach debt covenants which effectively ...more  
Comment by mydogchach on Mar 02, 2016 11:14am
Braindead, calling me dogsheit kinda hurts my feelings  You're hilarious - if you re-read my rant - your last two posts have done nothing but confirm everyhting I said. If you steal someone elses words you sound almost imtelligent - but left to yur own devices, you post poorly worded, idiotic gibberish. Dave says: Braindead = Danny Devito FACTS ARE FACTS (I was also wondering if ...more  
Comment by ryecatcher on Mar 02, 2016 11:20am
Why don't you two get a room?!
Comment by mydogchach on Mar 02, 2016 11:37am
Yeah, I'll leave it alone - I've had my fun, sorry to waste everyone's time. In other news BANKERS IS UP .11 cents!  Good stuff.
Comment by oilsyd on Mar 02, 2016 10:33am
Leftmike, you can certainly criticise the substance of someone else's comment and I certainly do not condone ad hominem attacks being made by anybody. However, if you check Cashtango's profile, he has been on here since 2012. He is not another "dave". Let's not get too Donald Trumpish!!!
Comment by wittmann on Mar 02, 2016 11:33am
Noone is an expert here,myself included,but I have read Cashtangoes opinions in the past.Owning one or two stocks since 2012 certainly doesnt qualify him as an expert either.I know that the defense will be that nobody claimed to be.an expert .well judging by the bickering on this board its obvious that EVERYBODY here has an ego at least. I personally rate the value  of certain longtime ...more  
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