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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bank of Nova Scotia T.BNS

Alternate Symbol(s):  BNS

The Bank of Nova Scotia is a bank in the Americas. The Bank offers a range of advice, products and services, including personal and commercial banking, wealth management and private banking, corporate and investment banking, and capital markets. Its segments include Canadian Banking, International Banking, Global Wealth Management and Global Banking and Markets. The Canadian Banking segment... see more

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Bank of Nova Scotia > can someone break down the situation very step by step?
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Post by robertbig on Oct 03, 2023 11:28am

can someone break down the situation very step by step?

need someone to break down the situation very step by step, 

understand the canadian housing market is in trouble, 

get some mortages are becoming interest only, 

why is this bad for the bank?

i thought higher interst rates generally helped banks, wasn't that the problem with european bank earnings?
Comment by mbuch on Oct 03, 2023 4:31pm
When the bank customers can't pay their mortgages the bank doesn't get their interest payments. Sure the bank may own the home but won't get 3 times the value of the interest over the term of the mortgage. The bank will have to sell the house for hopefully what is owed on it. That's not good for the banks.    
Comment by robertbig on Oct 03, 2023 6:00pm
parts of confusion for me 1. i thought in canada the bank has recourse to total amount of mortage loan, which may include but is not limited to taking posession of home,  2. seems like banks are simply extending amortization period, which may not be ideal, i don't know, but doesn't seem terrible, either 3. lots of worry about payments, only covering interest, not principal, but why ...more  
Comment by Rakaposhi on Oct 03, 2023 6:26pm
Mortgages in Canada (Except Alberta, Saskatchewan and Quebec... I believe) are full recourse mortgages. Much different than in the US. If you default (assuming you are not CMHC insured), the bank goes after ALL your assets, not just the house to be made whole. Therefore, Canadians will do whatever it takes to pay their mortgage.
Comment by robertbig on Oct 03, 2023 7:52pm
thanks, that's what i thought, surely that limits some of the downside here for banks.... 
Comment by FiddyFiddyShot on Oct 04, 2023 8:15am
Robert Big - - "Limits some of the downside for banks" ????    Ummmm, BNS dropped to sub 60 from 95 dollars in the span of a year and a half.  That drop doesn't exactly meet the criteria of limiting it's downside...
Comment by robertbig on Oct 04, 2023 6:42pm
i said, limits some of the downside 'from here' meaning, whatever it was trading at, $60? when i posted.... i have no crystal ball, but $90 seems high, my guess is back to $70-80 range within two or three years..... 
Comment by newcoin on Oct 04, 2023 6:32am
The Canadian housing market is not in trouble. Internet conspiracy nonsense.
Comment by FiddyFiddyShot on Oct 04, 2023 8:17am
Regardless of interest rates, people are still competing for housing.  And, Prince Justin is bringing ANOTHER 1.5 million people to Canada by 2025, they have to live somewhere....
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 05, 2023 12:52pm
Read this it may help expalin the situation: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/mortgage-negative-amortization-1.6986214?fbclid=IwAR2FrleuljenTDX3C_8z1XcFSWn2ogqt3lED9EJ-dAeMkKcTo1kdhQKh8t4 The parts I liked: Some lenders limit the possibility of negative amortizations by either requiring borrowers to come up with lump sum payments when their payment mix nears the limit, or switching them ...more  
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