RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Investors Beware - Do your homework
ThunderAcDc wrote: They don't. They give KK the opportunity to sell them without pressure to pay. They can take their time because the company has not incurred any debt to manufacture these units. It was the shareholders who paid with the new shares issued.
Ahhhh I see. .... That makes perfect sense. Why didn't I think of that ?
But just so I fully understand -- let’s all get this straight -- “Investors” (actually speculators - but they all think of themselves as investors) --- bear 100% of the BURDEN OF FINANCIAL RISK - for both Karbon Kleen (but NONE of the other 24 INDEPENDENT “dealers”) and Dynacert - so that Karbon Kleen alone (but NONE of the other 24 Independent Dynacert dealers) can offer free Hyrdagen units to FOR-PROFIT Trucking companies - so those trucking companies can try out this product. [But Karbon Kleen is not really a part of Dynacert --- not officially anyway] --- You know - IF -- KK is really NOT part of Dynacert - and Dynacert wants to really push this out to the market - why doesn't Dynacert deliver 150 free units TO EACH of it's total 25 dealers, instead of 3,000 units to just Karbon Kleen only 1 of it's dealers (which is allegedly independent of Dynacert)? Wouldn't THAT make more sense ? (Just a rhetorical question).
And according to Mr. Wealth - ALL of the OTHER 24 dealers can still “sell” the product if they wish -- but only if they first purchase the product for “re-sale” - which currently has a 100% failure rate - thus also bearing 100% of THEIR financial risk - not to mention their OPPORTUNITY COST in trying to sell a product that doesn't work - and then must compete with Karbon Kleen - [which allegedly is NOT part of Dynacert] - who gets 3000 units for “free” - and bears no risk until they are able to gain “subscription revenue” from their many alleged truck company customers (none of whom have yet been named).
Then - IF --- and ONLY IF (according to KK’s ‘subscription’ terms) - any respective truck co. customer (of KK’s) is able to reduce its operating cost by more than 8% due solely to improved fuel economy - ONLY THEN - will the trucking company customer have to pay to KK that month's subscription fee for the unit -- and only then in an amount in any given month - in direct proportion to that “cost savings” - which must be documented and proven by the truck company itself using the truck company’s OWN fuel-mileage data.
And IF -- that truck company DOES NOT see an improvement in fuel economy of at least 8% - then they don’t have to pay a single nickel for the Hydragen product. And furthermore - ALL warranty cost, service costs, maintenance costs, and after-sales service costs - are all borne by KK and Dynacert - whenever a Hydragen fails, breaks, or doesn’t perform, or needs to be replaced.
And that is a business model ? That is supposed to commercialize a product and build confidence in the capability and performance of a product that was launched, and re-launched, and then re-launched again at least 4 times over the past 3 years? That’s supposed to inspire confidence in the performance and reliability of a product that has failed to deliver any economic value to any truck industry customer since it was first introduced more than 12 years ago ?
This model is set up - this way - because in this case - Dynacert and Karbon Kleen have NOTHING TO LOSE -- NO SKIN IN THE GAME WHATSOEVER - while thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of poor, unsuspecting, well-intentioned “investors” and the other 24 non-KarbonKleen dealers put up their OWN HARD-EARNED AFTER-TAX money, and time - to try to convince a RIGHTFULLY SKEPTICAL and JADED trucking industry that this thing MIGHT save a trucking company some fuel cost - maybe ?
I think that about sums it up doesn’t it ?
You certainly have a right to your own opinion --- but mine is that this describes a “Hail Mary” act of desperation - of Biblical proportions --- and for which so-called “investors” and 24 of the 25 independent dealers (but not Karbon Kleen) ALL bear 100% of the BURDEN OF RISK of failure - while Dynacert’s and Karbon Kleen’s respective management teams all pay themselves salary increases to their already inflated high-six-figure salaries as a reward for more than a decade of serial failure.
Prove this wrong.