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Leonard Nemoy in 1979

[NPCexe]

https://youtu.be/7tAYXQPWdC0 Predicting an ice age in the late 70s. When that "expert model" produced garbage results, they went to global warming. Recall Al Gore with his I convenient truth. When 2013 came and went, and we were not underwater, they had to change the goalposts again. Now it's global climate change. Decades come and go and humanity is duped by fraudulent models pretending to understand complex natural phenomena. And that's how these protests start

[Quintessential1]

LOL again.   https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html#:~:text=Global%20sea%20level%20has%20been,has%20increased%20in%20recent%20decades.&text=The%20two%20major%20causes%20of,as%20glaciers%20and%20ice%20sheets.

[NPCexe]

if you cared to watch your messiah al gore once more, you will recall his prediction was TWENTY FEET of sea level rise by 2013. Shanghai and San Francisco would be underwater, according to his movie, which sparked a global hysteria about climate change. Why are you always off topic? No one said sea levels don't rise and fall, so what exactly is your point? Or do you just like copying and

[Quintessential1]

Not once in any of my previous posts do I mention Al Gore.  You are an assumption making no nothing troll. I don't have to prove science.  They have people for that. Just like I don't have to prove evolution or relativity. There is a scientific consensus and right now it says man made CO2 is the driving force behind  climate change.

[NPCexe]

al gore was brought up because he was quoting the science of the day, just like you. The general consensus also says lockdowns are great, even though this goes against every epidemiological study ever made. Enjoy your lockdowns.

[masfortuna]

I don't know about that. All I know is that we are locked down to prevent an overwhelming influx of individuals in our hospitals at the same time.  For this reason alone I think it's wise to lock everyone down. They didn't in 1918...A lot of intersting stuff that mirrors today situation in 1918...Check out Philadelphia and its mayor who refused to lock the city down or even admit

[rad10]

Mas - people that don't learn from history are destined to repeat it.  We are so close with an effective vaccine.  This board is often interesting some of the viewpoints are ???? Alas our public health officials also tie themselves up in circular reasoning. The "storing the second dose booster rather than vaccinating as many as possible with a first dose" argument was

[FreeAtFiddy]

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[NPCexe]

The spanish flu is nothing like covid. Almost 40% of deaths were ages 15-45. Covid is overwhelmingly affecting the elderly (80+), around 80% of our deaths are from this age group. Here you have a healthy working class with a 0.04% chance of dying being locked down. Furthermore, the WHO (big reliable organizations whom everyone seems to love and trust and never question), published a study in

[masfortuna]

We don't know what the long term effects are...After the Spanish flu, it is estimated  that encephalitis affected 6 million Americans. we don't what this will do to us long term Mas

[NPCexe]

true, but one thing we know is that the health experts don't know anything, and ALL their models were wrong. They claimed there would be 2 million dead by end of 2020 in USA. They went against the very WHO study they completed in 2019 that said lockdowns don't work once a virus enters your population, which I mentioned below. Not only that, but the "keeping hospitals from being

[FreeAtFiddy]

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[NPCexe]

Exactly. The virus is here, it has to run its course. If anyone says look the hospitals are filling over capacity, and it's all because of COVID, send them this, from Jan 2020: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-hospital-hallway-medicine-healthcare-beyond-capacity-1.5420434

[FreeAtFiddy]

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[sclarda]

NPCexe wrote Exactly. The virus is here, it has to run its course. If anyone says look the hospitals are filling over capacity, and it's all because of COVID, send them this, from Jan 2020: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-hospital-hallway-medicine-healthcare-beyond-capacity-1.5420434 ------------------------------------------------ I wish the virus would "Run its course

[NPCexe]

What an intelligent contribution, I can tell by your last 10 posts you are quite educated in many areas... bahhahhhaha!

[sclarda]

NPCexe wrote What an intelligent contribution, I can tell by your last 10 posts you are quite educated in many areas... bahhahhhaha! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Your high level of "Education" and inteligence is very obvious to all.  You remind me of some of those  inbred hill billys  in the movie Deliverance

[masfortuna]

It depends on what you find "acceptable". If something is dangerous then you don't want to expose yourself to it. This is dangerous although more so for those of a certain age and with pre-existing medical conditions. And so what? If life expectancy is 80 and you die at 60 does it make it better than someone who is 30?  How do you measure somebody's worth?  I'll

[NPCexe]

I agree with you, I'm not making value judgments. From a basic philosophical standpoint, a 90 year old has the same worth as a 30 year old. My theory is that more people will die this way, not less. There are estimates of between 200-270 million people (40 million will be children) in impoverished countries that will die from the economic disaster that results from the lockdowns due to supply

[Quintessential1]

LOL Sweden.  https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/22/sweden-coronavirus-covid-response/

[NPCexe]

Instead of bleating like a sheep why don't you actually look at the data yourself. Compare it with your precious Canada. Sweden was at 0-1 deaths all summer. What's that? You just let others think for you? B-a-aah! https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/sweden?country=~SWE

[masfortuna]

They projected 2 million casualties World Wide. We are officially at 1.9 million as of today.  Add the deaths that have not been reported...Pretty close methinks.

[NPCexe]

Who is 'they' so we can examine when and who said it? The leading health experts said it was 2 million dead JUST IN USA alone, here is the article https://www.dailywire.com/news/epidemiologist-behind-highly-cited-coronavirus-model-admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model

[masfortuna]

The WHO and here is the article lol! https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/25/who-says-2-million-coronavirus-deaths-is-not-impossible-as-world-approaches-1-million-.html

[Quintessential1]

Swede actually stopped reporting in May and resumed in October when they realized their system wasn't working.  You don't think at all.

[NPCexe]

Where do you get your delusions from? Remember what I said about citing your sources? How are you not embarassed when you make up things? Let me guess, apple news told you this? CNN? Don't talk to me unless you produce scientific data, like I do.

[Quintessential1]

It seems to me that during the first wave we locked down and numbers in Canada went down in every province to almost nothing.  In some provinces they did go down to zero.  Then we opened up and numbers started to climb and we didn't lock down and implemented mask wearing and restrictions designed to keep numbers low.  But the numbers didn't stay low they kept on climbing

[NPCexe]

We've been in a lockdown for months now, where's the downtrend? And no, there is no relationship, because sweden went up and down at the same time with no lockdowns. Correlation does not prove causality, statistics 101. No studies cited again, of course, so great job, we will just go by your hunches. How about look at the research that shows there was no difference in how covid affected

[Quintessential1]

We just went into lockdowns at Christmas.  We opened up from the first lockdown in September. Sweden is a Cluster F.  and have been up the entire time. South Dakota is not a country.

[Quintessential1]

The State of South Dakota has 1710 deaths per 1 million people.  THAT's your success story.   Canada (The country) has 412 deaths per 1 million people    Can you break that down using your own math skills?

[NPCexe]

Hahah, I included south dakota as a comparative example of a region that doesn't impose lockdowns. Total state COVID-19 counts as of Dec. 6: - 85,991 total cases, 1,110 total deaths (128.4 per 100K, #9 highest in USA, meaning comparable to the other losers that fully locked down. Sorry, the data doesn't care about your feelings) I thought you'd be bright enough to know what was meant

[masfortuna]

NPC I was in Bismark (yes I know it's North Dakota) the capital and the population was 45k at the time.  A lot of space in South Dakota.  You need to come in contact from what I understand and open spaces help.  Just saying.  Anyhow it's all good.  i'll stay away from anybody I don't need to be around.

[NPCexe]

That's a fair point, but the cities should average out the rural areas in the same way it does in other states/countries. The fundamental point I was making is that we were told if we do not lock down, millions would die, so countries were scared and locked down. The numbers are in, and the models were wrong. Sweden was not an outlier, the virus behaved the same way, look at the graphs. People

[NPCexe]

Last data I will spoon feed you, look at per capita deaths in Sweden and compare them to other European countries that fully locked down. Can you follow the numbers? Is it confusing? Don't post useless opinion pieces unless you can produce actual studies or numbers. It is conclusive: lockdowns haven't done anything to stem the outbreak. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Quintessential1]

Sweden Deaths / 1M POP   887 Norway  Deaths / 1M POP    83 Canada  Deaths / 1M POP  428 USA       Deaths / 1M POP 1101 Norway is right next to Sweden.  Don't tell me Sweden didn't screw it up.  They Did beat the USA though, but only because the USA is super stupid. Like you.

[NPCexe]

Italy - 1,263/mil / UK 1,121 / France 1,014 / Switzerland 923. See how easy it is to find other countries that had unforgiving lockdowns and still ended up worse than sweden? Hahah, way to cherry pick there bud. And there are many factors that affected sweden more than Scandinavian countries and two of the most cited in MEDICAL journals, if you read them, are much higher elderly population in

[Chad123]

Your are 100% correct. You also stated in previous posts the real reason why they have lockdowns and that is to protect the so called health care systems aka the hospitals from over capacity and nurses, doctors becoming sick which amplifies the situation making it worse. The problem is not the virus it is the way we deal with it.  Thanks for your posts.

[Quintessential1]

Sweden is a scandinavian country and Norway is the one right next to it.  The other country next to Sweden in scanadnavia is Finland-  Deaths per 1M / POP  104 Sweden should or could have had numbers like it's scandanavian neighbours but it doesn't because it went full ostrich like you. Italy, France, UK,  waited too long to lockdown and opened too soon after locking

[NPCexe]

Sorry, your opinions aren't backed up by any scientific data. Are you reading these from a journalist or a medical study? I already told you Scandinavian countries differ for many reasons, some cited below, not because of lockdowns. Waiting too long or opening to soon are just rationalizations when you realize the numbers don't work in your favour. It's like the ice age story that

[Quintessential1]

I am just posting stats from your link.  You are the one that held Sweden up as a shining example of how lockdowns don't work.  Its neighbours say different.  Even Sweden says different.....now.  Whatever all that exteraneous BS you are spouting about at the end is I'll never know.  It reads like someone proven wrong going off the edge.  

[NPCexe]

Your posts didn't show millions dead in sweden, as was promised by your messiahs. You can deny it all you want, I said look at all the countries and see that sweden doesn't have millions dead because of no lockdowns. Death rates are in line with all other countries that locked down, some by a lot, some less. You can not explain for that, and have nothing to contribute. You couldn't

[Quintessential1]

Every country touching Sweden has 5x less deaths per capita than Sweden and they all locked down.  You really like the word messiah huh? The only thing I have learned here is not to argue with an obstinate idiot.   Still enjoying my lockdown.  Enjoy your 2.5 x death rate.

[NPCexe]

What does geographical proximity have to do with it? How come other countries all locked down and some have double the death rate? Dont use your brain to reason, it ain't working. Use the numbers. And if you say enjoy high death rates, don't forget to include especially those that locked down. Tell that to the Italians. And the Brits. And the Americans. Fool.

[NPCexe]

Germany is touching Belgium and France and poland. Quick someone tell all the government leaders that if you just lock down like Germany and if you just TOUCH IT (like a messiah), you will be fiiine!!! Oops turns out the ones touching it have double the cootie death rate. Looks like Quinny is wrong, risk. Such a good theory in Quinny's head, though!

[sclarda]

NPCexe wrote Germany is touching Belgium and France and poland. Quick someone tell all the government leaders that if you just lock down like Germany and if you just TOUCH IT (like a messiah), you will be fiiine!!! Oops turns out the ones touching it have double the cootie death rate. Looks like Quinny is wrong, risk. Such a good theory in Quinny's head, though!

[Quintessential1]

Someone once told him he was Right and he mistakenly assumed it meant correct.

[NPCexe]

Aw that' so cute. Another humpty that has no citations or academic studies to reference, but gives us instead a quote they copied from the internet. Hah! Keep thinking the world will just be figured out by other people because it hurts your head too much and they are much smarter than you.