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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum CI First Asset U.S. Tactical Sector Allocation Index ETF T.FUT

TSX:FUT - Post Discussion

Post by BayWall on Jan 24, 2013 8:23pm

Commentary

Etching the date on Futura's tombstone. Reincarnation maybe into another company. Maybe if the buyer of Futura goes public then shareholders of old Futura could have first crack at any private placement. Reward us for our loyalty so to speak.

 

Some stayed on to the end because of the "Aeroplan" name. And how can we go wrong with that. Surely Futura will be successful. Not !

 

Others maybe thought a debt/share deal could have been worked out and saved the company. After all, there was an attempt in October 2012 to that effect with at least $2 million worth of debt involved.

 

Those of us who follow insider trading noted that David Beutel still has over 15 million shares. So things can't be that bad? Wrong! Can't trust insidier trading or lack of it to forecast stock movement. Too bad, even at 1 cent David coldl have pocketed $150,000. Which implies he didn't know bankruptcy was imminent.

 

And he probably he did not. Aeroplan filed the creditor claim in October. By then too late to sell any stock.

 

Then the comments by management in various news releases using words like "next level of success", and the word "profitable". Surely the CEO knows what he is talking about. Dreamers or genuinely thought so?

 

My impression was management saw the loyalty business as being profitable. After all it seemed so simple, what could go wrong? But they found it tough going instead. A group came together for 7-10 years or so. no experience in the loyalty business. A steep learning curve shocked everyone.

 

Should this company even gone public? Wellington West did an equity financing in 2006, but after that, the company was supported by debt.

 

The $8 million value for the processing division was an inflated number it appears. How could an independent appraiser make such a mistake is beyond me. In the final analysis, it's worth only what someone is willing to pay for it. But this too could have made some shareholders stay onto the end. Sell off the tax losses plus the business and maybe some shareholder value could be salvaged. Not to be however.

 

Who or what to blame now is too late now. The time has passed for the company.

Comment by BayWall on Jan 25, 2013 9:03am
Low ball offer?   First they said: Proceeds on disposition of Futura's business and assets are unlikely to be sufficient to pay these amounts owing to Futura's unsecured creditors.   Now some secured creditors will not be paid either. So less than $7 million is being offered. Probably just the value of the tax losses. Get the business and Aeroplan revenue flows for free ...more  
Comment by gofx on Jan 25, 2013 12:19pm
I think it's safe to say that people stayed in because there was no possible way to sell the shares... since absolutely nobody was buying.
Comment by gofx on Jan 25, 2013 12:20pm
Possibly only one bidder... the management group itself?
Comment by BayWall on Jan 25, 2013 8:04pm
Management buying the company was mentioned by someone last year. Whoever buys the company, it's still a tough road to travel even as a reseller.   I held on because of the weekly OBV indicator. There was a tiny hicup back in May 2011 which fooled me. This is because the indicator confirmed the stock price. If the OBV had remained flat, as the stock touched 6 cents ...more  
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