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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum goeasy Ltd T.GSY

Alternate Symbol(s):  EHMEF

goeasy Ltd. is a Canada-based company, which provides non-prime leasing and lending services through its easyhome, easyfinancial and LendCare brands. The Company's segments include easyfinancial and easyhome. The easyfinancial segment lends out capital in the form of unsecured and secured consumer loans to non-prime borrowers. easyfinancial’s product offering consists of unsecured and real... see more

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goeasy Ltd > Why the big drop in share price?
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Post by DarkReins on Mar 28, 2023 1:35pm

Why the big drop in share price?

Thinking of picking this up but wondering why there was such a big drop in the share price today?
Comment by cpeczek on Mar 28, 2023 2:35pm
There is a rumour that the Federal Budget released today will lower the max interest rate to 35% (which is likely true because it was disclosed by an unnamed staffer). So that will mean that GSY will have to drop their max loan value from 46% to 35% and it will impact earnings. Mix that in with the loss they are taking on Canada Drives, recession talks and interest rates and that's where you ...more  
Comment by McRambus on Mar 28, 2023 3:14pm
They do not charge 46% they charge max 35% on personal loans.
Comment by peter82828 on Mar 28, 2023 3:29pm
According to their most recent annual information form (available on sedar), they originate loans up to $100,000 with rates between 9.9% and 46.9%,
Comment by cpeczek on Mar 28, 2023 3:33pm
They do charge 46%. Not sure where you got that information from. Even on their website under unsecured loans it says "starting at 35%". Secured loans are under that. 
Comment by TimeScape on Mar 28, 2023 3:41pm
According to the Annual Information Form GoEasy released in February, the weighted average interest rate they charge on their loans has dropped from 46% in 2017 to 30.5 in 2022. There are rumours every year that the budget will implement some kind of interest rate cap.  We'll see in a few minutes if it happens this year.
Comment by RusticHit on Mar 28, 2023 3:42pm
46% in this country wow could ,nt believe it  Crazy MOney they are printing 
Comment by McRambus on Mar 28, 2023 4:28pm
  These are unsecured loans. Lots of chance of default and the only thing that happens is another black mark on an already black marked credit score. Quebec has been 35% max for years. 
Comment by pierrelebel on Mar 28, 2023 5:30pm
You want to know why?  Read this: On March 20, 2023, 1195407 B.C. Ltd., Canada Drives Ltd., USA Drives Ltd., and Canada Drives Auto Finance Ltd. (Canada Drives) sought and obtained an Initial Order of the Supreme Court of British Columbia pursuant to the Companies’ Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA). As at March 17, 2023, Canada Drives Entities owed $87.56 million, consisting of ...more  
Comment by TimeScape on Mar 28, 2023 5:45pm
$41 million is only 2.5% on the market cap of GSY.  The stock fell 9% today.  Even if the entire $41 million is lost, the stock shouldn't drop anywhere near 9%.
Comment by cpeczek on Mar 28, 2023 5:43pm
They were right. Interest is capped at 35% now. As well they changed the way financial firm's dividends are taxed in the government's favour. Not great for GSY, this will definitely impact earnings but like someone else said they have been working to lower the average interest charged by doing more secure loans and other types of loans through Lendcare and autofinancing. 
Comment by TimeScape on Mar 28, 2023 5:56pm
Yes, interest capped at 35%.  Will be interesting to see if GSY comments on how much impact this has on their earnings. To clarify about the dividends - the change to the way financial firm's dividends are taxed is pertaining to dividends they RECEIVE, not dividends they PAY.  No impact on the dividend tax credit to individuals who reveive dividends.
Comment by Torontojay on Mar 28, 2023 8:58pm
 Management was well aware of the risks on this matter which is why they have been lowering the average yield to consumer loans charged over the years. The forecast for 2023 is for yields on consumer loans to be 34.5% or 36.5% if we include ancillary fees. This is to be in the 33-35% range by 2025. They have diversified away from these higher risk loans and moved into securitized loans with ...more  
Comment by CHECKMATE77 on Mar 28, 2023 10:39pm
Great comment thanks 
Comment by TimeScape on Mar 29, 2023 1:34am
Good, quick response just released by the company.  They point out that they still expect to see an increase in adjusted eps even with the cap.  The current consumer loan portfolio average interest rate is 30% and new originations average 30% as well.  Revised estimates for 2023 will be released with the next earnings report, in May. Note that the ceiling is applied on a prospective ...more  
Comment by MrDales62 on Mar 29, 2023 7:09am
Crooks are sad that they can't charge more than 35%? F them!!!
Comment by cpeczek on Mar 29, 2023 7:58am
Why don't you start a business lending to no or bad credit consumers at a lower rate if they are crooks? 
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