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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum BetaPro Crude Oil Leveraged Daily Bull ETF T.HOU

Alternate Symbol(s):  HZOZF | HROZF

HOU¿s investment objective is to seek daily investment results, before fees, expenses, distributions, brokerage commissions and other transaction costs, that endeavour to correspond to up to two times (200%) the daily performance of the Horizons Crude Oil Rolling Futures Index. HOU is denominated in Canadian dollars.

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Post by Mat1791 on Apr 22, 2020 8:17pm

Reverse Split

Was inevitable, needs to stay listed.

Mathamatically neutral.

In normal times no big deal, investor psychology generally hates reverse splits but rebalancing would have negated trader bias.

In these times, where the etf is now trading more like a stock, afraid to say that psychology could increase selling bias.  (opinion not fact)

However, I wouldn't be surprised that more deer in the headlight ,retail amateurs will probably keep buying thinking "oil is too low" helping to support the price.

HOU on April 20th vs HOU today - 100% different beasts...
Comment by mdjbrown on Apr 22, 2020 9:07pm
Different beast is an understatement, Matt A manager of any publicly traded company trading on the TSX would be lynched if they ever attempted 2 share consolidations in a months time. Unfortunately, after the 20:1 split takes place next week, there are no guarantees oil prices will be on the upswing as availability for oil storage will face even greater pressures unless the world gets moving by ...more  
Comment by Mat1791 on Apr 22, 2020 9:12pm
Well said...
Comment by Nakate on Apr 22, 2020 9:51pm
Do not hold this thing through the reverse split, you won't be able to trade it online and if you really want to sell you will have to bribe your online broker to getter done if you can get one on the phone.  Its a nightmare if it the trade goes bad and from what Ive seen it rarely go in favor of retail. GL and don't do it 3 days maybe more before the new shares show up in your ...more  
Comment by JUICE01 on Apr 22, 2020 9:56pm
the good this we have until 28th April, I meself will not be holding or trading it at that point. Looking for a pop to get out !!
Comment by Barrhead on Apr 22, 2020 10:06pm
Yes this may pop; Therefore they have added the provisio   'Horizons ETFs reserves the right to cancel or amend this corporate action, if we deem it appropriate to do so, before the effective date.'
Comment by JUICE01 on Apr 22, 2020 10:09pm
Good point BH, they slipped that in there just in case the stock runs up ! They its a win win to bring the price right back up !!
Comment by Barrhead on Apr 22, 2020 10:14pm
Or it goes sideways on the managers when they are named in some legal documents, filing by other interested parties or 'they see the light' ...so to speak such as due to extreme market conditions due to geopolictical ambitions or adversaries.
Comment by Mat1791 on Apr 22, 2020 10:10pm
Certainly could.  This is the wild west now.  No intrinsic value.  If there is more buyers then sellers, stock will go up.  More sellers then buyers, stock goes down.  Simple supply and demand now.  Uneducated are going to dictate where this goes.   Those in it that don't understand, will get frustrated with it not following oil, like today, and might sell ...more  
Comment by Bigpaulbunyon on Apr 23, 2020 8:24am
They probably did a 20-1 because they know it's gonna drop 7-9 bucks . Even if oil stays at this level . Good chances June contract will go negitive , even with China buying , tension in the Middle East.  
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