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Incitec Pivot Ord Shs T.IPL


Primary Symbol: ICPVF

Incitec Pivot Limited is an Australia-based company, which is a technology supplier to the resources and agricultural sectors. The Company’s segments include Asia Pacific, Americas, and Group eliminations (Group Elim)/Corporate. Its Asia Pacific segments include Fertilisers Asia Pacific (Fertilisers APAC) which manufactures and sells fertilizers in Eastern Australia and the export market; Dyno Nobel Asia Pacific (DNAP) manufactures and sells industrial explosives to the mining industry; Asia Pacific Eliminations (APAC Elim) includes the elimination of sales and profit in stock arising from Fertilisers APAC sales to DNAP. Americas segment includes Dyno Nobel Americas (DNA) which manufactures and sells industrial explosives to the mining, quarrying and construction industries in the Americas and initiating systems to businesses in Australia, Turkey and South Africa. Group Elim includes the elimination of sales and profit in stock arising from intersegment sales.


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Comment by zalmonellaon Jan 06, 2021 2:40pm
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Post# 32234726

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:I'd like to be optimistic but....

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:I'd like to be optimistic but....

First of all you seem to jump to a lot of conclusions.  I never said that i was against finding a partner


There are others commenting here who think IPL can do it alone - I wasn't accusing specifically you. You review the numbers well - I simply think the uncertainty in the oil market will continue for more years so the storage assets will continue to be highly utilized and IPL could have continued to make good cash flow from it.  Which is what we all want.

I repeat - I got into this years ago for income and growth  - I had my choice of PPL or KEY or IPL and I chose IPL because they had the possibility of the poly plant when it wsas $3B and not $4B and they had partners lined up.  Since then, things have changed and it's no longer a sure thing and still no partners to share the load. One of the things lenders and ratings agencies look at is investor equity - when you start running debt up against equity and it comes out negative they don't like that.

I'm going to repeat the lesson of ENC again - while 9 out of 10 analysts were trumpeting its cash flow, its debt was rising higher and higher til the ratings agencies dropped it two points. investors - for some reason - panicked and fled, though the difference in interest rates on the new ratings would have only been $60 miilion a year, and ENC was making FCF or $1.2B, the market drove the price all the way down to $4.36 wher eI got my stake. Those who were in at $30+ based on the analysts' favourable reports are still underwater. 

That's exactly what could happen here.  Only IPL is a lot easier to swallow than ENC would have been. Nobody wants to be caught in a takeover where your stake becomes a line item in a bigger entity's report of sub-par performance.
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