RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:How should we view when IVN is flat and copper up 2%? Flipping for pennies and jumping in and out as some have tried to " mastermind the market" has had hilarious results here. Most that have preached it are long gone, or came back under new names because they have looked like fools. In the end, it doesn't really matter. The smart ones that have let the company do its magic have made the real wealth. To each his own.