RE:People who buy convertiblesIf you invest for interest purpose, you should buy debentures, bonds or pref shares, NOT convertible debentures.
Convertible debentures are a means for a company to issue deferred equity at a higher price than market share. Buyers of convertible debentures should buy them as a means to eventually participate in the commons.
Here's a link to RBC Wealth management's primer on convertible debentures:
https://ca.rbcwealthmanagement.com/delegate/services/file/162724/content
Excerpts:
"Convertible debentures are issued by companies as a means of deferred equity financing in the belief that the present share price is too low for issuing common shares. These securities offer a conversion into the underlying issuer’s shares at prices above the current level (referred to as the conversion premium). In return for offering an equity option, firms realize both interest savings, since coupons on convertible bonds are typically lower than those on straight bonds to account for the call option, and tax savings as coupon expenses are deductible for income tax purposes whereas dividends are paid from after-tax cash flows."
"VALUATION: A convertible bond can be thought of as a straight bond with a call option for the underlying equity security. Therefore, there are two lower boundaries below which the bond should theoretically never trade: • the straight bond value & • the conversion/intrinsic value"
"The intrinsic value of the bond is the current price of the common stock multiplied by its conversion ratio (the number of shares that each bond is convertible into)."
As stated by RBC, the lower boundaries are "the straight bond value" & "the conversion/intrinsic value"... Since the value has gone down since the offer announcement, it means the value of the offer is lower than both. Hence, the offer is below market value, otherwise the debenture would trend toward the bond value, and not down.
On the debentures, you haven't got "anything" back... it's not shares, it's debt. You don't get anything back, you get paid the value of money. If you put that money elsewhere, you should have got that 5%, but at the end, you wouldn't get a bad offer devaluing the bond value (which is unchanged through the years) by over 20%.
You also don't seem to understand that if you get shares, you can sell those shares if you don't believe in the company (heck, you could even temporarily short the common stock if you want to get 100% of your money back for sure, then reiumburse that short with the shares you get on conversion). I think that Invesque is worth more than its common shares are trading for, and provided a decent conversion price, I could extend the date for the convertible debentures. I'm only asking that the offer includes enough intrinsic value from the conversion rate to be able to trade at par, or at least where it was trading before the "offer". I don't think it's an outlandish demand... If I can't get that, then I'd prefer getting shares and decide for myself what I keep and what I sell, and participate in the companies future fully because I bought a financial instrument that's partly equity.
I'll repeat, through all the offers I've seen to extend the duration on bonds, debentures or convertible debentures where there wasn't a restructuration (in which case, debtholders seize control of the company and wipe common shareholders), they all reflected the market value and would see the new offer being priced close to par. This is the only offer I've even seen where the offered value is 25%+ below the bond value from the start.