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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Nano One Materials Corp. T.NANO

Alternate Symbol(s):  NNOMF

Nano One is a technology company with a patented and scalable industrial process for the production of low cost, high performance cathode powders used in lithium ion batteries. These unique materials are being designed to add value to electric vehicles and grid storage batteries in the global push for a zero-emission future.

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Nano One Materials Corp. > The potential partners of Nano One Materials!
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Post by contrap127 on Jul 04, 2024 3:03pm

The potential partners of Nano One Materials!

If they are not already partners of Nano One Materials! ;)

"According to Bernhart, there is only one solution from the perspective of German car manufacturers: "Even if the gap to the Chinese is large when it comes to the cheap LFP cell - there is no help for it, we have to get to work.""

https://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/energie/batteriefabriken-das-deutsche-batterie-fiasko/29878330.html
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WirtschaftsWoche July 4, 2024

The German battery fiasco

The weakening demand for electric cars is jeopardizing plans for new battery factories in Germany. There is also opposition from politicians. But the manufacturers are partly responsible for the current misery themselves.

The first excavators should actually have been rolling in Kaiserslautern in a few weeks. Nothing will come of it now: The German-French battery joint venture ACC, which is backed by the energy group Total and the car companies Mercedes and Stellantis (Opel, Jeep, Fiat, Peugeot, Citroen), has put its plans for the largest battery cell factory in Germany to date on hold. The group has also stopped work on a second factory in Termoli, Italy. Management now wants to consider by "the end of the year" whether the battery factory in the Palatinate should still be built. It was only at the beginning of 2024 that the partners Mercedes and Stellantis raised around 4.4 billion euros to build a total of four new cell factories in Europe.
Mercedes and Stellantis are not the only ones whose until recently ambitious battery plans have suffered a severe setback in recent weeks. It was recently announced that BMW had canceled a major order from the Swedish battery manufacturer Northvolt. The company, founded just a few years ago by two former Tesla managers, also wants to build a battery cell factory for electric cars in Heide near Hamburg. The construction of the planned battery factory of the Chinese cell manufacturer Svolt in berherrn, Saarland, is also stalling, as is the construction of the Saarland cell factory of the US battery company Wolfspeed. Svolt has already completely abandoned its plans for another factory in Lusatia. Finally, the battery supplier BASF stopped the construction of a factory for battery precursors in Finland.
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Whether it is wise to abandon plans for your own battery factories at the first sign of resistance is another question, says Roland Berger partner Bernhart: "In the long term, there is still no way around the electric car if you are at all serious about climate protection in transport," he believes. "Due to the many withdrawals in Europe, the already far too great dependence on China in battery technology will continue to grow in the long term," Bernhart fears.
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Finally, Volkswagen wants to become self-sufficient in the long term. The group has bundled its battery activities in its subsidiary Powerco. (My comment: similar to Tesla!)

Page 2/2 Know-how gap with Asia threatens to grow

Without exception, all existing and planned battery factories in Germany produce the particularly powerful but still expensive nickel-manganese-cobalt cells (NMC). But: "The growth is currently coming primarily from the much cheaper lithium iron phosphate cell, LFP," observes industry analyst Bernhart from Roland Berger. "And the LFP value chain is practically nonexistent in Europe." Maximilian Fichtner confirms this. "The German car industry and its battery partners in Europe have long given LFP a wide berth for patent reasons," says Fichtner. "With a lot of research effort, they have only acquired their own patents in the higher-priced, more powerful nickel-manganese-cobalt chemistry." Of course, these are not worthless, but urgently need to be expanded to include know-how in other cheaper cell chemistries such as LFP, believes the battery researcher.
The gap in cheaper LFP cells is also not exactly easy to catch up, says Fichtner. "If you want to be competitive with the Asians in terms of e-car batteries, the reject rates in production must be reduced to a minimum, and you don't learn that in the laboratory, only in the factory," says Fichtner. Hesitation in building new factories will not help.
And the Germans have missed another technical trend that tends to make e-cars much cheaper, says Fichtner. Up until now, the relatively small battery cells were initially bundled in a module in a few dozen units; several modules then make up the battery. Chinese manufacturers such as BYD, but now also Tesla, have developed a different method: in the so-called cell-to-pack process, much larger cells are packed directly into the housing, without the intermediate module step.
According to Fichtner, this saves up to 45 percent of the parts required for a drive battery. But the cost advantages of the cell-to-pack process are crucial: By eliminating the module housing, the Chinese manufacturers save a lot of space and weight, which means there is more room for the battery cells themselves with the same external dimensions. Fichtner: "At the level of the entire vehicle, cell-to-pack can achieve equally good results with less powerful but much cheaper, more densely packed LFP cells as with more expensive NMC cells, for example in terms of range."

In Bernhart's opinion, there is only one solution from the point of view of German car manufacturers: "Even if the gap to the Chinese is large when it comes to the cheap LFP cell - there's no help for it, we have to get to work."


NANO ONE MATERIALS! The only LFP producing factory currently in North America! What an advantage!

Comment by Lawisfun on Jul 04, 2024 4:07pm
Just more speculation of an indirect, twice-removed, unconfirmed connection to Nano One.  Last thing anyone wants to hear in the last ~20 business days before a mass sell off in August is just more unconfirmed indirect speculative applications of One Pot.  The market and investors only care about real news now.   
Comment by Lawisfun on Jul 04, 2024 4:31pm
It is imperative that when the 25,000TPA plant is announced in Quebec/Ontario that it is a JV with SMM.  SMM have experience getting plants to run rates with accepts yields.  There is zero chance that Nano can build a plant that size and getting it running to acceptable reject rates on their own.  Even with the team from Candiac Nano would have no chance of getting a plant to ...more  
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